Winstrol Kcal intake

[Frozenballs]

Sup guys,

been looking everywhere but havent been able to find an answer. I've heard some decent results from a Winstrol (winny) only cycle. Now I've been on my Winstrol (winny) only cycle for 8 days and I was wondering what my calorie intake should be for the best results.

Stats

1.92m
97kg
11%

goal

+- 97kg
6-7%

Ive heard frm people dropping over 8-10% in bodyfat, and still gaining 1kg of lean muscle. Now I am wondering if they did this by going 1000kcal under their need or just 300-400.

Right now im on 2550 kcal (217grams of protein). My basal metabolic is +- 2200kcal, I burn about 500kcal a day with cardio and maybe a few hunderd during the rest of the day (not that active)

Question is, will being 300-400 kcal under my need get me the best results or will being 1000kcal under my need give me better results.

Thanks in advance!

 

[clman8585]

Dude, you are completely lost. I dont even knkw where to begin. You are about to get bombarded with advice. Do yourself a favor and listen to it. There are some very knowledgeable people here.

 

[Frozenballs]

Got a pretty decent knowledge. English is just my second language so it is hard for me to put it all in words. Where it comes down to is what my calorie intake should be for the best results.

 

[fancyhuh101]

u dont use oral steroids on their own because they shutdown your bodies natural test production , this leaves 0 test in your body and leads to many problems , this is why u always use test in all cycles as a base to compensate for your body shutting its own supply down.

 

[fancyhuh101]

stop the oral cycle , u will lose most if not all gains just trying to recover your natural test levels because they will be low , do a real cycle if u feel u are ready and old enough , otherwise dont play with things that arent meant to be played with , there is only more risk then benefit

 

[Frozenballs]

Yeah I know most people are against oral only cycles. Still planning to continiu though, cycle is only 6 weeks. Next cycle will include test.

I dont excpect huge improvements. I just hope to keep my uscles while cutting. Now Im not sure if winstrol will make me able to cut on 1000kcal under need a day without losing muscle.

 

[fancyhuh101]

despite knowing the facts on how u will actually lower your natty test and risk damaging your hpta , and can say "Yeah i know" , and still do it is beyond me . Winstrol will no way help u maintain muscle under those circumstances , after u stop using it u are going to lose even more muscle then u gained , but i guess u know .

 

[Frozenballs]

How come so many people say so many different things. Lots of people say that Winstrol (winny) only doesnt affect your hormones that much so you dont even need a after cycle. Some people say Winstrol (winny) only wont gain you too much but everything you gain is solid and you will keep it. Some say it is completely useless. I prob will have to find out on my own, I've already started this cycle so I will just finish it and in the next one ill def put test. Prob is that I only have 8 weeks before I go on holidays by airplane and wont be able to take any steroids with me on the airplane. If you know anything that I can add to my cycle that will benefit me (dropping down +-5% bf and keeping if not gaining a bit of muscle) that would be awesome. But it has to be completed in those 8 weeks.

 

[hardtarget]

It depends on your goals as an INDIVIDUAL!!

 

[Frozenballs]

Like I said my goal is going from 11% bf to 6-7%. and staying on 220lb

 

[clman8585]

Winny will not "cut fat" ... Have you ever heard 80% diet, 15% training, 5% gear/supps. Eating clean and in a cal defecit will get you cut. There is no magic pill, diet is the magic pill..

 

[clman8585]

Like I said my goal is going from 11% bf to 6-7%. and staying on 220lb

Good luck getting that gyno after your cycle cause you have no post cycle therapy (pct). By the way, Winstrol (winny) has anti estrogenic properties, which will allow for estro rebound when you are off your cycle, you better get a post cycle therapy (pct) lined up before you regret it.

 

[KingCrane]

Good luck getting that gyno after your cycle cause you have no post cycle therapy (pct). By the way, Winstrol (winny) has anti estrogenic properties, which will allow for estro rebound when you are off your cycle, you better get a post cycle therapy (pct) lined up before you regret it.

Listen to all these guys bro, you should get a pct, its foolish not to have it on hand

 

[fancyhuh101]

everyone is telling you what they think of winstrol , they are not speaking in absolute fact . what u should do is read up on the compound yourself and get a very clear undetrstanding of it , this way u dont have to ask other people for their opinion because u can make your own. Winstrol is a fairly mild androgen/ anabolic , overall and say compared to test . some people "THINK" its light enough it wont surpress you , other "THINK" its worthless,. Yes , because it is so mild it wont surepress your hpta the same way as test , but it will still effect it , be smart/safe and at least run a post cycle therapy (pct) to be sure . What i "THINK" , is people are only taking guesses here because u cant be sure, so be wiser and at least take minimum precautions or dont use it at all . what u gain from it on a cycle if u use it with a proper post cycle therapy (pct) can be kept , but people are saying this because they are not water weight gains that u lose after th cycle from test , so realy try to understand why people are saying these things so u can judge for yourself

 

[fancyhuh101]

because test has alot of water gains , people say not all the gains are keepable , winstrol doesnt have any water , so what u gain is lean keepable muscle , BUT ONLY if u post cycle therapy (pct) properly , nothing is permamnent in that sense . EVEN lean muscle from test is keepable , BUT only with proper post cycle therapy (pct) , so understand what people mean and why they say it .

 

[Frozenballs]

I goot a PCT, just not sure wether to use it as im quite prone to acne. I've heard several people saying its not needed. how about 2 weeks 10mg a day of nova, its a lot less than most people say but it might help a bit?

 

[Frozenballs]

because test has alot of water gains , people say not all the gains are keepable , winstrol doesnt have any water , so what u gain is lean keepable muscle , BUT ONLY if u post cycle therapy (pct) properly , nothing is permamnent in that sense . EVEN lean muscle from test is keepable , BUT only with proper post cycle therapy (pct) , so understand what people mean and why they say it .

Although it might not show, im really appriciative for your comments. Although it might not be what I want to hear. I got a bottle of tamoxifen brand:LARS extreme power, it just doesnt look too legit. The label is in poor colour quality.

Im on my 9th day of 50mg/day of Winstrol (winny) tabs (genesis) is there anything I can add to my cycle that will be benifitial for my goals, dropping 4-5% bf and gaining a few lbs of muscle. My cycle can only last another 9-10 weeks including post cycle therapy (pct) as like I said I got to get on an airplane after.

Thanks again all for the information, I really appreciate hearing the negatives as well.

 

[Frozenballs]

bump

 

[clman8585]

Bump so you can continue to ignore vets advice