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WTF... Just 1kg after 5 months of massive dosages and food
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Leiurus
Vae Victis
Have you checked the a-c stickers # and fibers on the Gen-sci website?
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Of course. It's from a proper pharmacy.
STAUNCHED427
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Something seems wrong here... On that much gear and with that diet you should have made some solid gains, either you didn't follow that diet (not saying you didn't dude) or your training is off, or the gear was bunk but you said that it put you at the max level on the test... Something doesn't add up here. Possible you have Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, super rare, but possible, but even if you did it doesn't explain not responding to the GH/Insulin.
Do you have before and after pics? Sometimes numbers can be deceiving and going my mirror not the scale helps a lot.
Do you have before and after pics? Sometimes numbers can be deceiving and going my mirror not the scale helps a lot.
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Leiurus
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The fact it comes from a pharmacy doesn't guarantee anything regarding authenticity (as a side note, a "proper pharmacy" would not sell you GH without a script, even in HK, just saying)
Assuming that your gear is 100% legit it is simply impossible that your diet is exactly what you describe, even natty, at 1000cals above maintenance you would have put loads of weight on over 5 months, let alone being on gear at such super high doses.
STAUNCHED427
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This...
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I checked on the website. It's legit. You want photos??? I have photos and screenshots if you don't trust. It's a proper pharmacy.... He even sells Saizen HGH... I'm not local Chinese... you can buy anything if you know the right shop owners and you have the right relationship with them.
WHen you say natty,.... think about it... The pros gain like 5lbs a year some not even that... isn't there a point where the gains slow down... do you expect me to put on 30lbs on this cycle? I've done 100's of cycles.... I've gained over 100lbs in 2 years of body weight. Possibly the T3 and the HGH is keeping the fat down so the extra cals are just being burnt off???
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STAUNCHED427
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Pros are at the levels where the body just won't grow anymore as they are maxed out on AAS/Peptides IMO, you can't compare yourself as you are very far off from pro.
To be honest, I am not sure exactly what answer you are looking to hear from us about why you didn't grow... Assuming all your gear was real or fake, if you were following that diet you should have put weight on regardless.
Maybe consider doing a heavy cut to see what mass you are hiding under there and then consider doing another bulking cycle.
To be honest, I am not sure exactly what answer you are looking to hear from us about why you didn't grow... Assuming all your gear was real or fake, if you were following that diet you should have put weight on regardless.
Maybe consider doing a heavy cut to see what mass you are hiding under there and then consider doing another bulking cycle.
Leiurus
Vae Victis
Mate, don't take the piss, all I'm trying to do here is to figure out what's wrong, because 1000cals above maintenance for 5 months under 4g+ of gear, GH and slin should put on more mass than 1kg, whatever your level is.
Yes, pros put very small amount of muscles but don't take it personally, you're nowhere near them.
According to the pics you do look bigger, no doubt about that, but not massively, the pics confirm your stats, it is more a body recomp.
In my very humble opinion it is a combination a several various elements.
Accoring to my quick calculation you ingest roughly 5890cals /day for a TDEE of 4795, you're therefore roughly 1000cals above maintenance.
I think that you slightly over estimate the amount of food you're ingesting, just a few grams of carbs or fat here and there and with such a high total of cals the "error margin" can quickly raise up to 500cals. An error of 500cals would stand out on a 3000cals/day diet but on such a high total like yours it can be easily be done.
So let's say that you're actually not ingesting 5890 but 5490, you're now at roughly 700cals above maintenance. Because you're on T3 you're speeiding up your metabolism, making your maintenance level higher and therefore reducing the proportion of above maintenance cals you're ingesting.
Then on top of that you're on high doses on GH and as you pointed out you're already above max genetic potential, making it harder to put on mass, and here we are, you're stagnating.
That's the only explanation I can come with, not saying it is right, just trying to give inputs.
general zod
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ok the amount of real food you eat me at puny 210 can eat in 1 sitting geez way too much thinking man heres a secret protein drinks don't fucking work so they don't count maybe as water eat more even if its pizza or burgers your what you weigh do to ur cycle if you weren't on all that gear alone ud lose 50 pounds from lack of real food now go ahead and hate my reply but you asked now deal with the truth or just take 10 more protein drinks see what happens
general zod
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btw try eating like a 330 pound bb an honest one of course do you drink milk at your size 1 gallon a day should be easy . Actually what are your goals 350 i don't get how 290 from where you came from doesn't have you happy what about your health with all that gear and insulin for what are you in the NFL or a pro bb or you got a death wish
Ummmm...of course protein shakes count. They wouldn't have a nutritional facts label on them or contain calories if they didn't. Why don't you add 10 protein shakes to your diet (roughly 1000calories), keep everything else the same, and tell me you don't gain weight. This is logic, it's not difficult
Wannabe, think of it this way:
1) if you TRULY ate 1000calories over maintenance (I'm basing this off the math Leiurus has done) you would have gained more total weight. If you were far from genetic potential and had decent training and gear it would have been a good amount of muscle with fat. If not, it would have been mainly fat. The problem is in 5months you didn't gain any body weight.
2) if your gear was good than again you'd have put more weight on. The T3 and HGH could have eaten into your intake and made your TDEE go up. Sight rounding error as mentioned could compound the issue, etc.
With that much gear and food, optimal training or not, something more should have happened unless your training was just that piss poor it stimulated no growth.
1) if you TRULY ate 1000calories over maintenance (I'm basing this off the math Leiurus has done) you would have gained more total weight. If you were far from genetic potential and had decent training and gear it would have been a good amount of muscle with fat. If not, it would have been mainly fat. The problem is in 5months you didn't gain any body weight.
2) if your gear was good than again you'd have put more weight on. The T3 and HGH could have eaten into your intake and made your TDEE go up. Sight rounding error as mentioned could compound the issue, etc.
With that much gear and food, optimal training or not, something more should have happened unless your training was just that piss poor it stimulated no growth.
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China_Wall
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All his shit is legit...
As a note though... all u guys thinking just because something matching up on a website is "real"... I got news for ya, in China u can have ANYTHING made, any label, any package, ANYTHING
That's what I was thinking...
Make some bunk GH. Take the numbers from real GH and make a counterfeit label. Put said label on bunk GH and sell it as real GH. Voila. Bunk GH with 'real' numbers.
Leiurus
Vae Victis
No need to be condescendant, I've lived in China more than 3 years myself, I know you can fake pretty much anything.
However Gen-sci got a pretty sophisticated anti-counterfeiting system. The stickers are printed on a material with fibers cast in it, the fibers spread is random. Each sticker is photographed upon production, after authentifying the serial number you access the photo of the original sticker so that you can compare the number and location of the fibers. You can't really fake that.
However Gen-sci got a pretty sophisticated anti-counterfeiting system. The stickers are printed on a material with fibers cast in it, the fibers spread is random. Each sticker is photographed upon production, after authentifying the serial number you access the photo of the original sticker so that you can compare the number and location of the fibers. You can't really fake that.
Black Beard
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U mad? You sound a little mad 
You need to accept the POSSIBILITY that your gear is garbage. At 290 lbs, who knows you might have reached your genetic limit. Most don't have the genetic potential to gain as much mass as Kai Greene, Levrone or coleman. Drop the condescending attitude. We don't care how experienced you think you are. If you were, you wouldn't be asking so many stupid questions and getting mad from our answers. In my opinion, i would eat more but that doesn't seem to be the problem. I get the feeling your training is off or your gear is bunk. You can stomp on your ground and scream that your gear is legit all day, but unless you brewed it yourself, you just never know.
You need to accept the POSSIBILITY that your gear is garbage. At 290 lbs, who knows you might have reached your genetic limit. Most don't have the genetic potential to gain as much mass as Kai Greene, Levrone or coleman. Drop the condescending attitude. We don't care how experienced you think you are. If you were, you wouldn't be asking so many stupid questions and getting mad from our answers. In my opinion, i would eat more but that doesn't seem to be the problem. I get the feeling your training is off or your gear is bunk. You can stomp on your ground and scream that your gear is legit all day, but unless you brewed it yourself, you just never know.
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