@$%^Y man

THE-DET-OAK said:
if your under 30 and considering testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) without multiple testing and diet changes, along with vitamin d supplementation in order to restore, or looking for underlying issue such as tumor or other serious problem, your doing yourself a dis service.

PERIOD

There are very few and far between circumstances that anyone under that age, actually has a problem. if that is the case, ALL OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSES need to be ruled out first.

If its AAS induced, well then you still don't need testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) you could recover.

in a nutshell, your too young.
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Who are you talking to? My test levels have been checked, I am low..running at 200 and never used AAS. Whats it to you?
 
THE-DET-OAK said:
BUSTED :wackit:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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The entire time that "Minimus" was around, it always felt like the guy selling roids in the gym locker room. They may have helped a lot of people but it just didnt feel right, to me. Ive spoken with this new company on the phone, expressed my concerns, and we had a direct conversation. That is worth a lot more to me than saving 20 bucks here and there.

Again, whats it to you?
 
wvdave said:
The entire time that "Minimus" was around, it always felt like the guy selling roids in the gym locker room. They may have helped a lot of people but it just didnt feel right, to me. Ive spoken with this new company on the phone, expressed my concerns, and we had a direct conversation. That is worth a lot more to me than saving 20 bucks here and there.

Again, whats it to you?
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I about supporting the board sponsors (ULV), if you want to over pay for someone that doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground go for it.

$120 a month for injections? for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i pay less than that for 10 weeks, a little more than a few bucks I would say.

With that being said, lets hear your protocol, I am excited to hear how great these guys are...........

as for the vitamin d thing, that was for bneedst.

Im on a roll tonight, lets have some fun :) I want to hear how the "renewed" you...........and the results your getting thus far.
 
OMG 6 tests for 343? man o man, some of you guys just don't know how good you have it.

They better be testing the amount of gold in my blood for that much, i may have to pawn it in to buy my meds after that type of violation :40oz:
 
THE-DET-OAK said:
I about supporting the board sponsors (ULV), if you want to over pay for someone that doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground go for it.

$120 a month for injections? for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) i pay less than that for 10 weeks, a little more than a few bucks I would say.

With that being said, lets hear your protocol, I am excited to hear how great these guys are...........

as for the vitamin d thing, that was for bneedst.

Im on a roll tonight, lets have some fun :) I want to hear how the "renewed" you...........and the results your getting thus far.
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very interesting. I will look into ULV. Thanks!
 
seriously though tell us? just curious to know if they are good guys or not, we will know by what they put you on :)
 
No that is not who i work for. I like them though. Im really curious to know what they do though?

I mean for their prices I'm just wondering?

Only reason I was hesitant to believe you earlier is because your post honestly sounded like a weak sales pitch, I very well could have been mistaken, and am curious to find out how your protocol is working out for you?
 
FYI for anyone reading:

I contacted ULV, spoke with Todd (email sent last night at 10:30p, he responded at 11pm offering to talk then!)

Got a rough estimate on some cost numbers and wow, very cost effective! Hope to be onboard very soon
 
I use the unmentioned company..yes it's expensive but I have access to a local doctor who I can call if I have problems.

I never have a problem getting scripts either, everything is ordered online via a portal.

The company is very responsive, I also order and get my stuff within a few days whenever I need a refill.

I've been happy with them and my results have been great...my last bloods were awesome.
 
ShadowLink said:
I use the unmentioned company..yes it's expensive but I have access to a local doctor who I can call if I have problems.

I never have a problem getting scripts either, everything is ordered online via a portal.

The company is very responsive, I also order and get my stuff within a few days whenever I need a refill.

I've been happy with them and my results have been great...my last bloods were awesome.
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Thats actually good to hear! For me, the nearest doctor who is part of thier network is 4 hours away
 
ShadowLink said:
I use the unmentioned company..yes it's expensive but I have access to a local doctor who I can call if I have problems.

I never have a problem getting scripts either, everything is ordered online via a portal.

The company is very responsive, I also order and get my stuff within a few days whenever I need a refill.

I've been happy with them and my results have been great...my last bloods were awesome.
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How long have you been with them?
 
Doesn't Look "Awesome" to me

and what the hell are you taking clomid for? 350mg of test a week? did that tell you that was testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? :toilet: EDIT : i c now 175 a week


ShadowLink said:
My protocol is Test Cyp 175mg split into two doses a week (so one shot about every 3.5 days)

Anastrozole 25mg 5x a week

Clomid 25mg every day

HCG twice a week (day after shot)

thyroid T3 25mg every day


my first set of labs looked like this:

Estradiol 28
Total Testosterone 350
Free Testosterone 59.6
PSA 0.7
LH 6.5
DHEA-S 86
FREE T3 3.2


My second set of labs are as follows (this was done 4 days after last pin)

Estradiol <15
Total Testosterone 1203
Free Testosterone 274.5
Hematocrit 47.7
PSA 0.8
IGF-1 195
FREE T3 3.0
Glucose 76

so my testosterone levels went through the roof. My PSA went up a very tiny bit, my T3 went down which is weird so they may bump that up a little. My Estradiol is simply managed by cutting back my pills to 3x a week vice 5x a week. The doctor is making no changes in my test dosages.

Also they have me taking the following stuff for the program:

1. fish oil 4grams x 3 times a day
2. multivitamin x2 a day
3. vitamin d 5000iu twice a day
4. vitamin c 1000mg twice a day
5. vitamin 3 1000mg twice a day
6. co-q10 twice a day
7. DIM twice a day
8. DHEA and Pregenelone 25mg sub-lingual once per day

that's pretty much it, also noticed my BP has really dropped since i started this protocol and haven't lost any hair either. Weight pretty much stayed the same, i need to lose about 30lbs but I've recently started to lock down my diet and I'm getting the energy to hit the gym again.
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One thing I know for sure though, someone made the rent payment on that bad boy ^^^^ lol

My question is, how much adex are you really taking? i think 25mg QD would have made your arm fall by now............... either way, there is a reason your blood test say < 15 for E................. Cause its never suppose to go that low.................... and lastly, your not suppose to take just T3................ but what do I know...............
 
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and lastly your LH is awful high on your first bloods, indicating your primary, so instead of taking that HCG they sold you, mine as well flush it down the toilet..............

The points I made should give you plenty of things to discuss with that local doc of yours.

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Are you really taking Anastrozole 25mg 5x a week for a total of 125mg wow, usually 1-2 MG seems to be the norm.
 
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