10 days Blasting of HCG before starting PCT

[dmgkm]

Running a 12 week Test E cycle at 600mg per week I'll be starting my pct 18 days after the last pin. I've been running HCG on cycle at 500 iu per week. I intend to blast 1000 iu of HCG for 10 days prior to starting my PCT. My question is, do I start blasting days 7-17 and start the PCT immediately the next day on the 18th day or should i blast days 3-13 and wait 3 or 4 days then start the PCT. there's so much conflicting information on this all across the web.

I've followed this as a guide for my cycle: steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/664646-cycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

From what I get is that you start PCT immediately after, but i've heard more about waiting a few days.

or should i just forget about blasting all together?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

No need to blast. You only need to blast if you havent been running it throughout the cycle.
18 days is too soon for pct... You will still have exogenous test in your system. For 500mg test e weekly you need to wait 21days.. For 600mg id guess around 24 or 25 days.
Look up the pct calculator for a definete anwser.

 

[dmgkm]

No need to blast. You only need to blast if you havent been running it throughout the cycle.
18 days is too soon for pct... You will still have exogenous test in your system. For 500mg test e weekly you need to wait 21days.. For 600mg id guess around 24 or 25 days.
Look up the pct calculator for a definete anwser.

that's another thing too; with exact time to start pct. I see the typical idea being that most people recommend 2 weeks after the last pin for a 12 week cycle of either 500mg or 600mg. then some say wait 2-3 weeks. and if i use a calculator i go past 3 weeks. there doesn't seem to be an answer that everyone can agree upon.

 

[jozifp103]

3 weeks. 2 weeks is old info.

 

[Zhayedan]

If you are going to do a HCG blast you should first wait 3 weeks for exogenous test in your system to clear. Then blast the HCG for 10 shots at 1000iu every other day for a total of 20 days and start your pct (clomid/nolva) after the last HCG shot. Blasting HCG while still at supernatural levels is counterproductive to your recovery. But as others have stated the new school of thought seems to be that its better to just do HCG throughout the cycle without a blast period at the end.

 

[dmgkm]

so based on what you're saying; i wouldn't be starting my PCT until 51 days after my last shot. seems like a long time. there really doesn't seem to be a certain protocal that everyone agrees upon. some people even say to use HCG during pct. it almost seems like most people start pct after only 2 weeks.

Do you think i'm best to just hold on to the 10,000 i got of HCG and continue to use 500 iu after my 12 weeks until about 4 days until my pct (which i would start about 3 weeks after the last pin)?

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

No need to blast. You only need to blast if you havent been running it throughout the cycle.
18 days is too soon for pct... You will still have exogenous test in your system. For 500mg test e weekly you need to wait 21days.. For 600mg id guess around 24 or 25 days.
Look up the pct calculator for a definete anwser.

yes and whynot one full month. i would prefer one full month.

OK, exemestane-tamox have shown a extraordinary effect on recovery LH FSH and then production of testo.

i would prefer use this combe instead hcg between cycle and actual PCT.

plus, exemestane used with tamox, have the property to boost IGF1-r3... Amazing isn't it? right.

after wath, a good combo of clomid nolva for pct is perfect.

for rude cycle hightly supressive i rocommend HMG ( not hcg) for ten days with exemestane and nolva, and continue exemtane and nolva for 20 other days before to start pct.

don't concider the use of A.I and SERM just after cycle as a pct. it's simply not the case. is just a good preparation before PCT.

 

[dmgkm]

yes and whynot one full month. i would prefer one full month.

OK, exemestane-tamox have shown a extraordinary effect on recovery LH FSH and then production of testo.

i would prefer use this combe instead hcg between cycle and actual PCT.

plus, exemestane used with tamox, have the property to boost IGF1-r3... Amazing isn't it? right.

after wath, a good combo of clomid nolva for pct is perfect.

for rude cycle hightly supressive i rocommend HMG ( not hcg) for ten days with exemestane and nolva, and continue exemtane and nolva for 20 other days before to start pct.

don't concider the use of A.I and SERM just after cycle as a pct. it's simply not the case. is just a good preparation before PCT.

see this is what i mean. there are a thousand different ideas how to go about a pct. is there any concensus here? some of this stuff could really get my head spinning.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

see this is what i mean. there are a thousand different ideas how to go about a pct. is there any concensus here? some of this stuff could really get my head spinning.

What do you mean? Me and kane are in agreement.

Pct should always be:

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

For heavier cycles extend that to 6 weeks, or add hcg at 500 iu weekly throught cycle but not into pct.

Simple. Everything else hes talking about is on cycle support. All you need to know is dual serm therapy for pct, either nolva and clomid or nolva and torem (very very similar drug to clomid)

 

[dmgkm]

What do you mean? Me and kane are in agreement.

Pct should always be:

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

For heavier cycles extend that to 6 weeks, or add hcg at 500 iu weekly throught cycle but not into pct.

Simple. Everything else hes talking about is on cycle support. All you need to know is dual serm therapy for pct, either nolva and clomid or nolva and torem (very very similar drug to clomid)

Kane was talking about 30 days in between the last pin and pct and doing Aromasin and Nolvadex along with HMG. that's another scenario that i haven't come across yet, but have seen somewhat similar stuff.

the Online PCT calculator says to start the PCT after 23 days. I think i'll opt to do it then.

my question now is: should i continue to administer my weekly 500iu of HCG up until my pct, and if so should i stop 3-4 days before PCT or the day before. or do i stop the HCG at the end of week 12?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Kane was talking about 30 days in between the last pin and pct and doing Aromasin and Nolvadex along with HMG. that's another scenario that i haven't come across yet, but have seen somewhat similar stuff.

the Online PCT calculator says to start the PCT after 23 days. I think i'll opt to do it then.

my question now is: should i continue to administer my weekly 500iu of HCG up until my pct, and if so should i stop 3-4 days before PCT or the day before. or do i stop the HCG at the end of week 12?

Yeah, that's not really necessary when you have a proper PCT lined up. You don't need to worry about that. Although you should be continuing your AI until about a week before actually starting PCT.

Yep, 23days sounds perfect. The PCT calculator is pretty much bang on accurate, so go with that.

Yes, HCG should be continued right up til PCT.. so you'd be looking at having your last HCG injection roughly 3-5 days before actually starting PCT (wherever it fits in your schedule). You want to have everything suppressive out of your body by the time you take those first nolva and clomid doses. I should've mentioned eariler, it's best to split your HCG into two injections of 250 iu each... so alongside your test e injections every 3.5 days. Monday mornings and thursday nights for example.

 

[Needtogetaas]

No need to blast. You only need to blast if you havent been running it throughout the cycle. .

I agree with this part..However i like to start pct earlier and run it longer.

 

[dmgkm]

Yeah, that's not really necessary when you have a proper PCT lined up. You don't need to worry about that. Although you should be continuing your AI until about a week before actually starting PCT.

Yep, 23days sounds perfect. The PCT calculator is pretty much bang on accurate, so go with that.

Yes, HCG should be continued right up til PCT.. so you'd be looking at having your last HCG injection roughly 3-5 days before actually starting PCT (wherever it fits in your schedule). You want to have everything suppressive out of your body by the time you take those first nolva and clomid doses. I should've mentioned eariler, it's best to split your HCG into two injections of 250 iu each... so alongside your test e injections every 3.5 days. Monday mornings and thursday nights for example.

perfect! sounds pretty clear and answers all my questions. thats what i'll plan on doing. thanks for laying everything out.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

perfect! sounds pretty clear and answers all my questions. thats what i'll plan on doing. thanks for laying everything out.

No worries bud. We're here to help.