14 days shouldn't be 14lbs

[Four1Thr33]

14 days into my test tren cycle and oddly I'm up 14lbs.. I know this is not muscle gains but is it really all water ?
I'm running
Tren 400
Test 250
I'm running low test, I would assume there wouldn't be so much water retention

My diet is about perfect and in the 40/40/20 macros and I'm currently consuming 3300 cals
Started at 170lbs now I'm 184

Should I just start talking my adex ?

heres my diet

Meal One Calories Fat Carbs Protein
3 XL omega 3 eggs (egglands best) 210 12 0 18
4 egg whites (all whites) 100 0 0 20
1/2 tablespoon EVOO 60 7 0 0
1 Cup Oats (quaker) 300 6 54 10

Meal Two 8oz Chicken Breast 260 2 0 54
1/2 tablespoon EVOO 60 7 0 0
8oz yams 263 0 63 3.5

Meal three 8oz turkey breast 260 7 4 42
8oz yams 263 0 63 3.5

Meal four 1 can tuna (starkist solid white) 70 2 0 13
1 Tablespoon low fat mayo (miracle whip) 15 0 3 0
1/2 cup Red kidney Beans 110 0 20 8

post workout 2 scoop protein shake 260 6 8 54
1 Bananna 105 0 27 1

Meal Five 8oz Chicken Breast 260 2 0 54
1/2 tablespoon EVOO 60 7 0 0

Meal Six 8 oz london broil 463 20 0 69


Total for Diet 3119 78 242 350

 

[Bullishness]

I am sure you have your prami / caber on hand.

 

[Teutonic]

How is your strength ?

Are you smoother than normal or less vascular ?

 

[Four1Thr33]

Yes I have prami on hand and have been useing it Dailey .30mg still working up to .50
..strength seems the same and haven't noticed any visual difference. It's odd to me because I even taped my self a few days ago with almost zero increases in body size

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

What type of teen it that? I'd say you bloated at hell and maybe not digesting. I'd jump on fiber and and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Letro would be a good choice.

 

[Four1Thr33]

I have adex at my house. Will that suffice ?
Tren E
Sust
Also will more cardio help with this aggressive water gains ?

 

[darkside06]

sounds like bloat. Sust with Tren E will do that to u. like DPR said, up your fiber and get on that AI.

 

[vannesb]

14 days into my test tren cycle and oddly I'm up 14lbs.. I know this is not muscle gains but is it really all water ?
I'm running
Tren 400
Test 250
I'm running low test, I would assume there wouldn't be so much water retention

My diet is about perfect and in the 40/40/20 macros and I'm currently consuming 3300 cals
Started at 170lbs now I'm 184

Should I just start talking my adex ?

14lbs is a lot and no size difference? With that low of dose I would not think you would have much water, I would be taking armidex .5 EOD and see if you dry up some you can ajust as needed.

I would not have ran Test so low myself and I know guys who like the high dose Tren and Low Test.

 

[Four1Thr33]

14lbs is a lot and no size difference? With that low of dose I would not think you would have much water, I would be taking armidex .5 EOD and see if you dry up some you can ajust as needed.

I would not have ran Test so low myself and I know guys who like the high dose Tren and Low Test.

Ya with low test that's what I was thinking that's why it's Wierd to me. My diet from before bulk to bulk I only added like 600 cals (8oz chicken, 8oz sweet patato) so I don't believe the food is causing it lol

And reason I'm running the test low is because I don't want tren having to compete with the test for receptors. And it's going
To be a long cycle so I spaced it out a little. The test with be raised after completion of tren

 

[R1rider]

id say its bloat. get some more fiber and hit the AI

 

[vannesb]

Ya with low test that's what I was thinking that's why it's Wierd to me. My diet from before bulk to bulk I only added like 600 cals (8oz chicken, 8oz sweet patato) so I don't believe the food is causing it lol

And reason I'm running the test low is because I don't want tren having to compete with the test for receptors. And it's going
To be a long cycle so I spaced it out a little. The test with be raised after completion of tren

Very interesting. I will have to try that see how it works for me. I willbe real curious on your end results!

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Maybe your Tren is not Tren ?. Tren doesnt bloat me because of its good androgen harding effect, and test is to low to bloat!

 

[bigherm2121]

Very interesting. I will have to try that see how it works for me. I willbe real curious on your end results!

Yea and most guys do it with higher tren then test like that seem to have very minimal sides with tren. Test and tren fight for the same receptors and the low dose of test will just hook you up with the test for bein shutdown. I have great results with hi tren low test so do a lot of other guys.

 

[Bullishness]

Maybe its just the scale going bad.....

 

[Four1Thr33]

this. Tren doesn't aromatize at all, and at that dose of test, if you are bloated that much, your diet or water intake is fucked up.

Why exactly are you doing ANY gear at 170lbs?

was 205 when i started first cycle went up to 225 but was mad high body fat....

after cycle ended i dieted like crazy dropped 55lbs down to 170 lost a ton of muscle

cycling again now to regain what i lost plus some... for 170 i am a very large dude, no one believes i weighed that little

ill try to attach my diet to my above post

 

[Four1Thr33]

Maybe its just the scale going bad.....

pretty new scale... maybe a few months old

 

[Four1Thr33]

Maybe your Tren is not Tren ?. Tren doesnt bloat me because of its good androgen harding effect, and test is to low to bloat!

if this is tru, im the first guy with a bunk pinnacle labs product and i dont believe that

and my test is human grade Omnadren Sust

 

[BodybuilderX]

man.. imagine if you kept most of the muscle from 225-170. You would be one Lean Mean Cut Machine XD

 

[Four1Thr33]

heres my diet

Meal One Calories Fat Carbs Protein
3 XL omega 3 eggs (egglands best) 210 12 0 18
4 egg whites (all whites) 100 0 0 20
1/2 tablespoon EVOO 60 7 0 0
1 Cup Oats (quaker) 300 6 54 10

Meal Two 8oz Chicken Breast 260 2 0 54
1/2 tablespoon EVOO 60 7 0 0
8oz yams 263 0 63 3.5

Meal three 8oz turkey breast 260 7 4 42
8oz yams 263 0 63 3.5

Meal four 1 can tuna (starkist solid white) 70 2 0 13
1 Tablespoon low fat mayo (miracle whip) 15 0 3 0
1/2 cup Red kidney Beans 110 0 20 8

post workout 2 scoop protein shake 260 6 8 54
1 Bananna 105 0 27 1

Meal Five 8oz Chicken Breast 260 2 0 54
1/2 tablespoon EVOO 60 7 0 0

Meal Six 8 oz london broil 463 20 0 69


Total for Diet 3119 78 242 350

ok just so i can make this a little more fucking confusing lol
this is my diet, the highlights in RED are the only food items i added when i went into my bulk cycle.. EVERYTHING else i eat everyday and was NOT gaining anything.. i was holding steady with that for a few weeeks... then POW 16.8 lbs now as of 25mins ago muther fucker!!

 

[Four1Thr33]

fuck that noise... im going running!!! lets see how much water i can drop in 45 min
start 186.8
finish 183.2

i just lost 3.6 lbs water in 45 mins