I have 22% body fat and waiting for my steroids to arrive. Will that bodyfat be a problem? I have extra free time now and want to cycle as soon as possible. I were planing for propionate+winstrol(oral)+anastrazol(armidex) with tamox for PCT. Will armidex be enough to overcome BF side effects? What are pittfalls? Can i burn some fat and gain a bit of muscles with that cycle?
1st cycle and high body fay
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tury694
Pale Gorilla
What are your goals? My BF% was higher when I ran my first cycle, but I am not worried about looks. If you are doing this because you want certain aesthetic features then you should drop some of the bodyfat. You also need to run an appropriate first cycle, and by appropriate I mean a test only cycle. You need to use an AI throughout the cycle, and plan a proper clomid and nolva pct. You should also consider adding hcg so your nuts don't shrivel up and it also makes recovery easier. Being on cycle makes burning fat much easier while maintaining muscle, but you must understand that if you cannot eat to get in the shape you want off cycle then you will encounter the same problems on cycle. I think that you can drop close to 15% in 2 and a half months and then run the cycle. Are you aware that adex does not belong in pct, but needs to be used during the cycle to prevent high estrogen symptoms like BLOAT. Hang on to your gear and drop the BF naturally, and then run a proper cycle. Type out a cycle and we can help you adjust it accordingly when the time is right.
Why don't you post up some more stats too.
Height
Weight
Age
Goals
Training history
We can help guide you but you have to be open minded and understand that the information you get here will not always be what you want to hear, but it sure as hell will be the truth.
Teutonic
New member
Welcome to Olgy,
Are you serious or are you testing us ? U NEED TO explain your situation much more comprehensively than -
I m fat
Got drug s en route
Will a, b and c..be Ok if I... d, e and f..
Do you train at all and if so how and for how long. How old are you ?
Stat s bro..
Ur coming at me like my 9 yr old when I give him a 30 dollar limit at Toy s R US with options...what if..what if...should I...??
U should slow down and hang around and learn enough to ask "GOOD QUESTIONS".
Are you serious or are you testing us ? U NEED TO explain your situation much more comprehensively than -
I m fat
Got drug s en route
Will a, b and c..be Ok if I... d, e and f..
Do you train at all and if so how and for how long. How old are you ?
Stat s bro..
Ur coming at me like my 9 yr old when I give him a 30 dollar limit at Toy s R US with options...what if..what if...should I...??
U should slow down and hang around and learn enough to ask "GOOD QUESTIONS".
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Yeah, I remember when I was a kid and my parents gave me that fucking $20.00 limit. Do I get the fucking nerf gun or the medieval lego set? I fucking wanted both!
Anyways, OP gots to do a better job of giving us some background information so we can help.
hiram1st
New member
Welcome to ology.
Please take the time to read the stickies and especially:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
Educate before you medicate
Please take the time to read the stickies and especially:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
Educate before you medicate
What extra info do you need? Goal is burn some fat while not loosing/getting a bit extra muscles. I'm 21 years old,training for 2,5 years, 3 times a week with weight and 2 days cardio(will max cardio for 2 weeks). I'm 183 cm 95 kg(6 feet, 210 lbs). HCG is poorly avalible in my country and not well known in fact
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tury694
Pale Gorilla
Yeah you are a bit young bud. Lose some of the fat naturally before you cycle. Steroids are not a quick fix to life's problems, but if you do not want to heed the advice of those with experience at least read up and do everything the correct way.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
It all depends on diet and training bud. Just drop the fat before the cycle and you will be happier with your cycle results. You will not see any of your gains on cycle because of your high bodyfat. I think you are too young but if you are dead set on running a cycle do it right. Run the AI during the whole cycle also. I see that English is not your first language, maybe another member speaks in your tongue and can offer help. What language do you speak?
hiram1st
New member
Take your money and hire a nutritionist and learn how to diet and train properly. You can make some great strides natty.
I didn't want to hear this stuff when I came here but I'm glad I listened. When you have a good base to build off and know how to diet to reach and maintain your gains the money won't be wasted on gear.
Like tury said no quick fix here.
I didn't want to hear this stuff when I came here but I'm glad I listened. When you have a good base to build off and know how to diet to reach and maintain your gains the money won't be wasted on gear.
Like tury said no quick fix here.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Exactly, and it won't even take him a long time to drop that kind of bodyfat. He can easily drop down close to 15% with a strict diet and training regimen. 3J would have him there in no time, but even without a nutritionist he can handle that kind of diet and training just by researching and being dedicated, but everyone wants the quick fix.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
You will gain a lot of muscle, but I doubt that you will lose any body fat. I am not sure that you will like the results of the cycle, and it may discourage you in the future. The advice of your compatriots my not be the same as ours but I am sure they know of the problems of running cycles with higher bodyfat. Good luck with whatever you decide to do my friend, but you should really take the advice of the guys on this thread.
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
Not as much as right nutrition as estrogen control. That's where the difficulty & dangers lie in cycling with high bodyfat.
Nutrition and training will get you results. Estrogen control will keep you from jacked up blood pressure, bloating, mood swings, etc.
barrysanders
LIVING THE DREAM
I PM'd the dude with no response. And to think I was
Gonna help with a full diet and work out regimen. Saved me tons of time newbie.
However, since I'm in your thread I'll take less time.
No gear bc your blood pressure would
Prolly be through the roof since your diet
Is poor, cardio 7 days week30 min low intensity, lift 5 days, and pick
A diet- there's tons either carb sensitive
Or calories pick one.
Gluck
Gonna help with a full diet and work out regimen. Saved me tons of time newbie.
However, since I'm in your thread I'll take less time.
No gear bc your blood pressure would
Prolly be through the roof since your diet
Is poor, cardio 7 days week30 min low intensity, lift 5 days, and pick
A diet- there's tons either carb sensitive
Or calories pick one.
Gluck
Hello! I didn't answered fast because of time zone differences(were sleeping) and now system doesn't let me respond(not enought priviledges). Does AI's mean aromatose inhibitors(like anastrozolum(armidex)?) its possible to buy one in pharmacy without perscription due to law incompleteness(its perscription medicine,but pharmacy has no responsibility if they sell without some of meds without persription, so many of them sell). And i hear you) My goal is to burn some fat without burning muscle/gaining a bit. You said in topic,that i should cardio 7 days+lift 5 days a week,should i do it on cycle or before? In fact i never trained that hard. Carb diet isn't a problem. Won't it be overtraining resulting muscles burn? Thanks a lot for your attention! PS. i Also heard that winstrol "scores"(don't know right english word for that) leg muscles and cardio becomes very hard
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oldmusclemike
Well-known member
You need to read and learn what aas is all about. Read "'Ology Frequently Asked Questions" as was said to you.
1. You are too young
2. BF% is much too high
3. You can loose the BF easy by diet and workout
4. No workout NO steroids
juced_porkchop
Moderator
higher body fat can make side effects much worse. estro and BP etc... dont use then for another year IMO and research steroids, nutrition and training, bring yoour body bad down to 15% atleast.
also you not finished growing till about age 25. doign this before then can mess yo up for life.... wait a few years...
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