1st Cycle..Comments/Advice appreciated!

[diesel_3]

Hey 'Ology,
I've only been on these forums for about a month but have been soaking up the information here like a sponge and finally compiled what I would hope to be my 1st cycle (Which I will probably do early fall)

I am 27 years old (Will be 28 by the time I start my cycle) I am an ex serving member of the Canadian Armed Forces. I have weight trained for about 4 years now, used to be close to 300LBs of pure fat, and now I walk around at about 195-200LBs, I know how to properly diet using a weight scale and counting calories. I had tried a winter bulk last winter and it just turned into a bit of a fulk as after trying to constantly lose fat, gaining muscle was foreign to me (I know I know, eat in a surplus and lift heavy)

28 Years old
200 LBs
18% BF

I am however, going to run a Clen/T3 cycle sometime this summer for 8 weeks (2 on/2 off - repeat) to help drop my BF% just a bit more.

This is what i'm thinking for a 1st cycle from my research here. I know people say Test only for 1st cycle, so what I have is not set in stone!

1-16 Test-e 350mg 2 x per week
1-8 Anavar 50mg per day
1-18 Arimidex .5mg per day
1-18 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu every week THEN i'll do 500iu every day ED from last Test pin to PCT (If this is overkill, please let me know)

PCT

1-4 Clomid 50/50/50/50
1-4 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I will also keep Caber on hand, and might dose EOD or just keep in case prolactin sides appear.

My goal is probably like anyone else's, cut some BF% and gain a little bit of size. I have a crappy body type. I'll attach some images from when I cut down to my lowest (176LBs) but so you can get an idea of my body type.

There is a great wealth of knowledge on this board so I wanted to make sure to do my research so that people would be willing to help me out.

Thanks (Sorry for long winded post)

 

[Austinite]

Hey Diesel,

I generally recommend 1 compound for your first cycle, but Anavar is fairly mild so you should be OK. Your BF is not 18%. It's considerably lower, so good job there. Consider a bodpod assessment for accuracy. For a first cycle, your proposal is a bit longer than I'd like to see. But this is what I would do...

Week 1 to 12: Test E @ 500mg/week (Pinned twice weekly @250mg each every 3.5 days)
Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 500iu/week (Pinned twice weekly @250iu each every 3.5 days)
Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg Every other day
Week 9 to 14: Anavar @ 60mg Every day

2 Weeks after your last test injection, PCT with Clomid @75/50/50/50 and Nolva @ 40/20/20/20

Remember that what you eat will determine your results, the compounds above will merely amplify the effect your nutritional plan would produce. Poor nutrition results in poor results, with or without steroids.

Best of luck to you.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Your cycle looks pretty good for the most part.
Test only cycle is the best 1st cycle. I would increase to 500mgs per week.
See how your body reacts to steroids, introduce one compound at the time.
If you still gonna run Anavar (var), run it for 6 weeks instead of 8.

 

[diesel_3]

Hey Diesel,

I generally recommend 1 compound for your first cycle, but Anavar is fairly mild so you should be OK. Your BF is not 18%. It's considerably lower, so good job there. Consider a bodpod assessment for accuracy. For a first cycle, your proposal is a bit longer than I'd like to see. But this is what I would do...

Week 1 to 12: Test E @ 500mg/week (Pinned twice weekly @250mg each every 3.5 days)
Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 500iu/week (Pinned twice weekly @250iu each every 3.5 days)
Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg Every other day
Week 9 to 14: Anavar @ 60mg Every day

2 Weeks after your last test injection, PCT with Clomid @75/50/50/50 and Nolva @ 40/20/20/20

Remember that what you eat will determine your results, the compounds above will merely amplify the effect your nutritional plan would produce. Poor nutrition results in poor results, with or without steroids.

Best of luck to you.

Thanks Austinite, Those pictures were from last summer, I'm about 200LBs right now with more fat on the body than those pictures.

Your cycle looks pretty good for the most part.
Test only cycle is the best 1st cycle. I would increase to 500mgs per week.
See how your body reacts to steroids, introduce one compound at the time.
If you still gonna run Anavar (var), run it for 6 weeks instead of 8.

Thanks, Dexter.
I may do Test only and bump it up to 500mgs and see how things go from there!

 

[hard2gain]

Running the Anavar (var) in your first cycle is a waste of money imo. You're gonna get the same results with or without it because your first cycle is just that great. Quick question you said test e 350 2x per week, Does that mean you're splitting 350 into two doses or you're gonna be running 700 a week? Thats just too much for a first cycle if your meant 700 bro!

 

[Rumpy]

Yeah, I thought you meant 700mg week as well, what ever you meant, 500 is the usual for a first cycle. PCT looks good. As stated above, 8 weeks is too long for an oral. I like 4 weeks of Dbol as a kicker, but that's just me, I'm sure you'll do well on Anavar (var), just don't run it that long. Your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a little overkill in that it's probably more than you need, but I don't think it will hurt anything. There's no point in starting it on day one because nothing is suppressed at that point. I'd wait until about 2 weeks in to start it. You do NEED to stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) about 3 or 4 days before you start PCT. I run it at 500iu a week, pinned at 250iu 2X a week on the same days as test, but I stay at that for the full time. Some guys like to blast at the end, but it's all good.

 

[Rumpy]

Oh, the adex might be a bit high, I would start at 0.5mg OED or E3D. Increase it if needed. You shouldn't need caber for this cycle.

 

[diesel_3]

Whoops, ya, I meant 350 for the week, not a total of 700mgs haha.
I will just drop the Anavar (var) and do a straight Test cycle.
Will start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after a couple weeks and just have Caber on hand, won't dose but I guess a 'just in case' I see all the threads where people are getting crazy sides and just want to make sure I have a tickle trunk with some extra stuff incase my body reacts differently and I don't screw myself over.

Edit: I'll also drop the Adex to .5mg EOD

 

[Nightmare007]

Read the stickys

 

[Nightmare007]

Also better to drop your bf first with the clen and t3 combo na dude the test for a good bullk

 

[Rumpy]

I would also up the test to 500. Once you start taking test, it will shut down your natural production, so part of what you're taking has to go to replace that, just to get you back to normal. It's not uncommon for doctor prescribed testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) to be 100-200mg per week, so although 350 will raise your levels, it won't be that significant, but you'll still be completely shut down and need full PCT plus the long wait before you start another cycle. Just make sure the benefits out weigh the costs.

 

[abusedyam]

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step 2: get big
step 3: get pussy
step 4: come thank abusedyam

 

[halfwit]

step 1: bump test dose up to 500/week (2X250)
step 2: get big
step 3: get pussy
step 4: come thank abusedyam

But wouldn't the wife wonder why I'm thanking abusedyam mid-coitus? Just sayin'.

 

[Rumpy]

I'm still a little put off by a guy, using girls in his avi, inviting another dude to come get pussy.

 

[halfwit]

I'm still a little put off by a guy, using girls in his avi, inviting another dude to come get pussy.

Hahahahahaha.

 

[diesel_3]

Thanks, guys...Will do 500mgs then!

 

[hard2gain]

500/wk is a perfect first cycle. Make sure you take the time to dial your diet in because thats what is gonna make the night and day difference in your gains, especially the ones you keep post cycle.

Also I prefer to wait to add the adex until you start seeing some sides. This way you can truly feel out how your body reacts to the test, which is the goal of a first cycle anyways. Adex has such a short half life you can get them until control fast if you start to feel something. Good luck and enjoy Bro!

 

[ryanbedfod]

step 1: bump test dose up to 500/week (2X250)
step 2: get big
step 3: get pussy
step 4: come thank abusedyam

haha