1st cycle Input Please, Test C

[saysaythings]

I will be starting my first cycle in the next week, it is as follows:

Weeks 1-12,
200mg Test C split between 2 injections

Weeks 1-5 40mg Dbol, ED

Weeks 15-18 Nolvadex & Clomid
20mg Nolva ED first week, 10mg ED the second and third
50mg Clomid ED first week, 25mg ED for the second and third week

Stats:
23yrs
5'8, 162 lbs.
Very lean, Extremely hard gainer. Experienced in diet and exercise, I have been lifting for 6 years, admittedly with some lapses in between. I have a good diet currently which I will be modifying once I begin the cycle by increasing my intake to maximize results. Not being very large to begin with, I've come to the conclusion that running 200Mg a week of test would be appropriate especially when run with Dbol.

Any sound/tried and true advice or input about the cycle in general and especially about the type/amount/length of the PCT would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all very much, very glad I found this forum.

 

[Session25]

i would add in some hcg and aromasin throughout your cycle.

 

[Mbh87]

I would atleast run your test at a minimum of 300mg a week.

 

[Infantry87]

Hcg is always a bad ass choice . I've used it with every cycle I've done and it never fails

 

[saysaythings]

i would add in some hcg and aromasin throughout your cycle.

I have looked into both. Is it advisable to run either or while in my first twelve weeks or would this be in anyway counter-productive? If not what would be a suggested average dose of HCG and/or Aromasin, and the frequency given my cycle and stats?

Mbh87- You think 200mg is a little low?

 

[DADAWG]

I will be starting my first cycle in the next week, it is as follows:

Weeks 1-12,
200mg Test C split between 2 injections

Weeks 1-5 40mg Dbol, ED

Weeks 15-18 Nolvadex & Clomid
20mg Nolva ED first week, 10mg ED the second and third
50mg Clomid ED first week, 25mg ED for the second and third week

Stats:
23yrs
5'8, 162 lbs.
Very lean, Extremely hard gainer. Experienced in diet and exercise, I have been lifting for 6 years, admittedly with some lapses in between. I have a good diet currently which I will be modifying once I begin the cycle by increasing my intake to maximize results. Not being very large to begin with, I've come to the conclusion that running 200Mg a week of test would be appropriate especially when run with Dbol.

Any sound/tried and true advice or input about the cycle in general and especially about the type/amount/length of the PCT would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all very much, very glad I found this forum.

leave off the dbol and up test to at least 300-400 mg a week.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Moved to the appropriate forum........

 

[AlwaiizGaining]

I agree with the ones saying step the test up and drop the dbol, i'm running my first cycle as well right now @ 600mg test cyp per week, gotta learn to crawl before we walk bruh. Good luck tho man.

 

[saysaythings]

This is all very helpful. I decided to run Aromsin along with my cycle at 12.5 mg a day . Once everything gets here I'll post pictures in the appropriate forum (this time!) For advice on their legitimacy. Is 300 test c a week too low do you think? My order will account for that much as of right now, if I bump it up to 400 I'll need another vial. Would much rather do it right the first time.

 

[park]

Id run test C 500-600mg.

 

[park]

My first cycle was TEST C at 600mg a week and the only thing I wish I did different would be add an Aromasin.

 

[AlwaiizGaining]

ya buddy get the extra vial, do it right you'll be happy you did, plus there's too many studies showing the benefits of running 600 over 300 so why not, ya dig?

 

[Dr. Steal]

Ok at the risk of sounding like a parrot..


500mg per wk or you are kinda wasting your time....need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) IMHO!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

500 would be better, but your small 300 a week would prolly work in the end.

 

[saysaythings]

My updated cycle is asd follows:
weeks 1-12 400 mg Test C split between 2 injections

weeks 1-5 Dbol 40 ED

weeks 14+

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex 20/20/20/20/20

Aromasin 12.5 mg daily throughout the entirety of the cycle.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Ciritcism? Slander?

 

[Long_2010]

Its good your asking advice before jumping the gun like alot of people do with very little knowledge including myself in the past.

Personally id leave the dbol and just go test only for your first cycle, keep it simple and then if all goes well do a stack on a future cycle.

At 300+mgs a week you should see some good gains if your diet is good.

 

[saysaythings]

Personally id leave the dbol and just go test only for your first cycle, keep it simple and then if all goes well do a stack on a future cycle.

You think the Dbol would be too much for a first cycle run? Out of curiosity, why so?

 

[Long_2010]

As i said i believe not everyone may agree, but its best to keep it simple for a first cycle.

Its advised to run test as a base for all cycles, so thats why i say just take test see how you reacted to that alone, then add other things the cycle after. If you take dbol and test your not going to know what sides is coming from what if you do get any.

Hope that helps.