1st Cycle's ..test Only...that's All..

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yup test is all people you will be amazed on the strenth and mass you get from it alone,BUT diet and proper training you will need BEFORE you think of test...
 
yup test is all people you will be amazed on the strenth and mass you get from it alone,BUT diet and proper training you will need BEFORE you think of test...

Agreed. High dosages of test for a first cycle is not needed your receptors are still fresh so no need for the high dosages.
 
test wont and will never be the workhorse of your cycle..push youself and listen when we offer advise,well most of us...you have questions well ask...closed mouths dont get fed...and patience.....it will happen
 
To what extent though?

from my brief research androgen receptors are constantly renewed. it's possible there may be an increase to androgen tolerance over long term use with high doses, but not permanently.

i think there is evidence that in older age, androgen receptors have decreased sensitivity.

at the end of the day i agree with low doses if they are still providing results.
 
from my brief research androgen receptors are constantly renewed. it's possible there may be an increase to androgen tolerance over long term use with high doses, but not permanently.

i think there is evidence that in older age, androgen receptors have decreased sensitivity.

at the end of the day i agree with low doses if they are still providing results.

Yes totally agree i think if people actually took the right amount of time off in between cycles (Minimum - Time on + post cycle therapy (pct) = Time off) then they wouldnt need high dosages are the receptors will be more desensitised due to the period off.
 
i disagree in the older aspect of what you are sayin...the more you cycle the less functional are your receptors, and thats another reason why we take same time on ...same time off dicipline..
 
Yes totally agree i think if people actually took the right amount of time off in between cycles (Minimum - Time on + post cycle therapy (pct) = Time off) then they wouldnt need high dosages are the receptors will be more desensitised due to the period off.

fuck you beat me too it lol
 
Androgen receptors are never more or less "fresh" nor do they become "desensitized" over time. The body is constrantly producing new androgen receptors. Taking time off doesn't "reset" or "refresh" receptors.

People usually make great gains the first time they cycle but that is because after cycling, the body is closer to its genetic limit and it is harder to make more gains.
 
Androgen receptors are never more or less "fresh" nor do they become "desensitized" over time. The body is constrantly producing new androgen receptors. Taking time off doesn't "reset" or "refresh" receptors.

People usually make great gains the first time they cycle but that is because after cycling, the body is closer to its genetic limit and it is harder to make more gains.

So it needs time to build these new receptors so the theory is the same?
 
Im off to bed guys i hope we can carry this on tomorrow as this subject is really interesting and needs to be discussed further and to see if anyone else has any input. Look forward to speaking later bro's . Nite.
 
thats the impression i was under...and years ago one of the guys at the gym told me ..so he pretty much led me in the wrong direction when it comes to that field....fuk
 
thats bullshit , you just don't know how to train
properly. everyones getting tired of your dribble.

I asked why i never said it it was true dont you know how to read? and so your telling me you run the same dosages every cycle? and acheive the same results? GET SERIOUS!! and as i said in a previous thread stop saying im wrong and start proving im wrong. You want be to back up my theories? Read Anabolic Reference Guide (6th Issue), World Anabolic Review, Underground Steroid Handbook.
Now show me your proof?????????????
 
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