1st time tren...what to expect?

[Gfunkmanilla]

hey bros!

its been a while, and after 8 months of incarseration im back! been in the gym all natty for the past few weeks, getting ready for my first tren run.
a long time ology vet help me put together my next cycle which ill start within the next week or two.

test P/ tren A/ M1T
8 wks/ 8 wks/ 2 wks on 2 wks off
50EOD/50EOD/ 1 tab daily

will bump test and tren up to 75mgEOD then 100mg EOD once i find that im tolderant to the tren.

TRT dosage throughout cycle as well at 1-200mg/week

what can i expect from tren at 50 mg EOD? 75? 100?

how should my gains be at these dosages?

anything you guys use to combat tren sides ( irratable, sweats, insomnia)?

do i need liver support with M1T?

i read i should up my carbs while on the tren? yes?

just trying to feel out what im getting myself into, and trying to prepare myslef for whats to come ( aside from being swole and strong )

all gear coming from PSL, and watch out for my LOG of this cycle!!!!!

GFUNK

 

[jozifp103]

You can expect tren to be unexpectable. That's about all I can say. Each day on tren is different, and some sides don't show up until the later weeks. I'm on week 8 @ 50mg ED and I've about had enough with the lack of sleep, and overall shitty attitude tren gives me. Would I run it again? YESSSS I loved it. Just gotta make sure everything in my life is in order and calm because this time it wasn't. Break-ups, family crap, money issues, all were magnified by the tren.

I've upped my carbs a TON on my current tren cycle...mainly because it makes me crave carbs. Tons of pasta, rice, potatoes, and even sugars just to keep me satiated. I'm STILL managing to lose fat and stay lean. It's hard to take in enough calories to be satisfied.

Liver support with M1t??? ABSOLUTELY. M1T is VERY toxic. One of the worst.

Gains will be determined by diet...

 

[Megatron28]

It was the best of times... It was the worst of times.

 

[Teras14]

 

[Repo]

Everyone is different, but here's my experience...

The only bad sides that I get is... I wake up freezing while I'm having night sweats... "and I live in Florida!"

The night sweats seem to be somewhat related to how much I eat before I go to bed... the more I eat
the more likely I am to have them.

Other than that, it does effect my cardio pretty hard, but it's only noticeable when I'm pushing myself...

The last time I was on it, I was running while jumping rope for a couple miles every morning and had to
slow down and walk every so ofter.

Tren cough is VERY mild for me, I just have a wheezing feeling in my chest for a couple minutes after injecting
and then it goes away.

I've also found it best to adjust your ratio dose with test and tren like a teeter-totter... if the tren goes up, the test
goes down... My first tren cycle was, tren-e 400 and test 800 - I then gradually flip flopped the dose to tren 800 and test 400
with only a very little difference in side effects.

The sides seem to much harder, if I bring both tren and test in equal amounts.

For me the sides aren't that bad, but the results are through the roof!

 

[halfwit]

Sounds like you've gotten some great input. Just make sure you're in a good place MENTALLY before you start. In relationship trouble? Hold off. Work stressing you out? Hold off.

Tren is one finicky bitch; she hunts for weakness and feeds on it. If you're cool as a cucumber however, she'll rebuild your body (assuming everything else is in check).

That, and be vigilant with estradiol, some really jacked up things can happen if you let that pesky E2 get out of control. Nothing like being a floppy dicked, lactating, emotional wreck.

My .02c

 

[Hypnotix]

No mention of Prami or Caber? I don't know enough to give dosage possibilities.

But I know 19-nors can cause issues with Prolactin. Hopefully a vet will complete this post for me.

 

[Gfunkmanilla]

RUI for the prami or caber? and any dosage reccomendations? vets?????

 

[halfwit]

RUI for the prami or caber? and any dosage reccomendations? vets?????

Yes, RUI has legit pramipexole. If you manage estradiol properly, you shouldn't need it, unless you're unlucky and are just prone to hyperprolactinemia. 0.25mg EOD for the first week, 0.5mg EOD the next, and if necessary 0.75-1mg thereafter. It should be taken at night with a meal as it can make you sleepy and nauseous. If the higher doses are intolerable, you can go to ED with half the dose. Ex: 0.25mg ED vs 0.5mg EOD.

 

[Gfunkmanilla]

so should i be running aromasin also? then maybe i wont need the prami halfwit, is that what you are saying......or maybe adex?

 

[Gfunkmanilla]

of course i know i should get the prami to have on hand, but i usually have no issues with low test and estrogenic sides, only really needed an AI over 750mg/wk

 

[Megatron28]

Prami has an 8-12 hour half life. I would recommend taking it every day before bedtime. And for a first Tren cycle I would definitely use a DA. Why risk it when there are enough other things to worry about with Tren?

 

[halfwit]

so should i be running aromasin also? then maybe i wont need the prami halfwit, is that what you are saying......or maybe adex?

I used to be of the opinion that we always should run a dopamine agonist, but why suffer through nausea and use a habit-forming drug if just keeping estradiol at bay is good enough for the majority of folks. I do have a bottle in my fridge that I haven't had to touch for my last two cycles, but it's there - just in case.

 

[Tornadoalley]

It still trips me out that you guys know about as much as a hormone dr lol