2 Months since cycle- Haven't done any PCT, Please Advise

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maximillianmark

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It's been 2 months since my ~8 week cycle ended, and I haven't done any PCT. why? Because my trainer said I didn't need it. I stupidly listened to him. Now, I am just now reading up on steroid literature, and It's all a little overwhelming, so bear with me a little. My primary question is, How do I get to know what I need to do? I went for a testosterone test today. I will have the results tomorrow. If the level is low, I guess I need PCT? what if the levels are alright?

This is what I took : testosterone, stanzolol, deca durobolin, tren enanthate, parabolin

Now, the dosage was 100 mg's for each shot, and I got them 2 times a week,mostly, like in 1 week- test and then stanzolol, and then switch stanzolol with deca for the next week, like that. At the end I got 3-4 250 mg test shots. Not in a day ofc, spread out over the same no. of weeks I guess. Not sure about the dosages really. What kind of tests should I get done basically? Please Help.
 
maximillianmark said:
It's been 2 months since my ~8 week cycle ended, and I haven't done any PCT. why? Because my trainer said I didn't need it. I stupidly listened to him. Now, I am just now reading up on steroid literature, and It's all a little overwhelming, so bear with me a little. My primary question is, How do I get to know what I need to do? I went for a testosterone test today. I will have the results tomorrow. If the level is low, I guess I need PCT? what if the levels are alright?

This is what I took : testosterone, stanzolol, deca durobolin, tren enanthate, parabolin

Now, the dosage was 100 mg's for each shot, and I got them 2 times a week,mostly, like in 1 week- test and then stanzolol, and then switch stanzolol with deca for the next week, like that. At the end I got 3-4 250 mg test shots. Not in a day ofc, spread out over the same no. of weeks I guess. Not sure about the dosages really. What kind of tests should I get done basically? Please Help.
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First cycle? Good lord where do these "trainers" come up with these shitty ass cycles.
 
Gainjin260 said:
First cycle? Good lord where do these "trainers" come up with these shitty ass cycles.
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I trusted the dude. He said he had knowledge. That he would do right by me. I spoke to him recently, after reading up on this myself, and...well, it seems as if he was liberally applying whatever he had at the moment. My god. Like, hey I guess I have this, so have a few shots of this, and also why not this? sigh. I am waiting on my blood work at the moment. Planning to test LH and FSH and maybe estradiol? I will go to a doctor I guess.
 
Yes that is very low test. Jesus Christ...20 years old and taking steroids. You need PCT like 2 months ago. You need to start ASAP. Is your ball size back to normal? This will make a difference in whether or not you should HCG first. If so, try a basic pct of Clomid(I hate that shit but you will need it) at 100mg/daily and Nolvadex at 40mg/daily. Maybe try dropping the Clomid to 50mg/daily after the first 2 weeks. Run is for 4-6 weeks. The only other thing you can do is pray. If at 20 years old, you didn't get back to normal in 2 months without PCT, you may not come back from this.

The second thing you need to do is buy a baseball bat. Take the bat to your "trainer" and swing that shit and hit him in the balls with it. Then never listen to the motherfucker in any aspect again. I would also expose him/her to everyone that you know. Any piece of shit who would advise his/her 20 y/o trainee to take steroids should be castrated. It pisses me off that this fucking douche not only influenced you but also gave you the worst goddamn cycle imaginable. I mean seriously, this is the worst cycle that I have ever seen posted and even worse, its a first cycle. Because of it, you may never get your test back to normal and be stuck on testosterone replacement for the rest of you life.


Fuck man....good luck. I mean this sincerely. I hope things work out.
 
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wow.. your trainer really really did you wrong... at 20 years old you have the test levels of an 80 year old man... but dont worry i think we may be able to salvage this.. here is what i want you to do..

get your hands on some hcg.. youre going to need enough hcg to run 500iu eod for 30 days.. while taking the hcg i want you to run 20mg nolva daily for 30 days.. on the 30th day stop the hcg but keep the nolva going... 3 days later start 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva ed for 4 weeks..

after that, wait 6 weeks and retest your labs..

maximillianmark said:
So my test is 128.36. Pretty Low I guess. I am 20. Should I be having PCT now? Awaiting results of other tests. Severely anxious.
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fyi, chances are youre going to feel like shit through this process, no sex drive.. moody

go bitch slap your "trainer"
 
I will post the results of my LH, FSH and E2 test in a while, I will receive them today. I am perpetually on the verge of tears. I wouldn't have taken a cycle, He persuaded me. I had no desire to do one. He nagged me for some time and eventually I caved. He assured me everything would be fine and that he knows everything, that he has degrees and certificates, and So I didn't do my research. frickin stupid of me, I know. I should have read. I am visiting a specialist tomorrow. I will let you guys know what he recommends. I don't think my balls have shrunk, I never knew to notice this sort of thing, but I think they haven't shrunk. I can't be sure because I don't remember exactly how they looked pre-cycle. and also because I can't think straight right now. jesus god.
 
guys, After I visit the specialist tomorrow, I will choose either his recommendation or what you guys are recommending, but If I receive multiple suggestions from you guys it will be difficult to choose. Can you guys settle on 1 course of remedy? What you think would be the absolute best. That would be great.
 
Guys, these are the results :
LH- 3.99
FSH- 1.71

Estradiol (E2) , Serum - 32.71

What do you think? What's up with me? What's the best course of action? I am visiting the specialist tomorrow, I will explain everything to him as best I can. I will run whatever he says by you guys.
 
BigSwoleP said:
Yes that is very low test. Jesus Christ...20 years old and taking steroids. You need PCT like 2 months ago. You need to start ASAP. Is your ball size back to normal? This will make a difference in whether or not you should HCG first. If so, try a basic pct of Clomid(I hate that shit but you will need it) at 100mg/daily and Nolvadex at 40mg/daily. Maybe try dropping the Clomid to 50mg/daily after the first 2 weeks. Run is for 4-6 weeks. The only other thing you can do is pray. If at 20 years old, you didn't get back to normal in 2 months without PCT, you may not come back from this.

The second thing you need to do is buy a baseball bat. Take the bat to your "trainer" and swing that shit and hit him in the balls with it. Then never listen to the motherfucker in any aspect again. I would also expose him/her to everyone that you know. Any piece of shit who would advise his/her 20 y/o trainee to take steroids should be castrated. It pisses me off that this fucking douche not only influenced you but also gave you the worst goddamn cycle imaginable. I mean seriously, this is the worst cycle that I have ever seen posted and even worse, its a first cycle. Because of it, you may never get your test back to normal and be stuck on testosterone replacement for the rest of you life.


Fuck man....good luck. I mean this sincerely. I hope things work out.
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I am taking what you have prescribed now. I will drop nolva and clomid to 20mg/daily and 50mg/daily after 2 weeks, is that good? Then I will finish with 1 or 2 weeks of only nolva at 20mg/daily, what do you think? is this a good idea? or do I need to go 10mg/daily for the last 2 weeks?
 
It's been 7 days since I started taking Clomid and Nolvadex. After the first 3 days, the size of my balls increased a lot. I think it's back to normal. I can't tell accurately. They are certainly big enough, I think. There has been a massive increase in Libido, thankfully. I like that a lot.
 
maximillianmark said:
It's been 7 days since I started taking Clomid and Nolvadex. After the first 3 days, the size of my balls increased a lot. I think it's back to normal. I can't tell accurately. They are certainly big enough, I think. There has been a massive increase in Libido, thankfully. I like that a lot.
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thanks for the update, good to feel better.
 
No offense Ghost but you need to start your own thread. This is someone else's thread and many time the OP continues on as time or cycle or recovery continues.
 
Deca needs a long time to disappear from organism and will hold the T. level low for longer time.
Could be, you only need a bit more time... ;)
 
Hey guys, it's been a long time. I thought I would update this thread for everyone who responded, and for posterity. I had done the PCT for 8 weeks I think, and then I got myself tested again, the results were (on 23rd March, 2017) :
test- 499.60
LH-3.41
FSH-1.74

I got tested again on the 19th of May, this year, 2018. Around a full year and a month after the last test. The results were:

test- 452

I feel pretty normal, everything's fine. I am lifting regularly. Thanks for the help guys :)
 
I followed BSP, I didn't run HCG because I read that it's suppressive and shouldn't be run in PCT, albeit I know now why 3J recommended it, I gambled that my balls were fine and I only needed some more LH.
 
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