dbol said:Regarding Arnie, its been on shed loads of programs. The gym he trained in over here in the UK regularly state on programs that he was taking 5mg of Dbol a day back in the 60's. I'm inclined to believe it simply because i've seen just how much doses have increased in the past 7 years. Back then, you would see a post like this talking about 50mg of Dbol and just about every one would be shocked by it. The way things are going, in another 7 years newbies will be being recommended a starting dose of 100mg a day of dbol. It seems like a slippery slope.
I also agree Arnies genetics obviously played a massive part in his physique, but that's not to say that someone without those genetics should need to take more. They are never going to be as big as Arnie anyway and their is a physical limit to the size anyone can ever get to. With time, patience and sensible training/dieting and cycling, its possible for anyone to acheive their max size without the need to do ridiculously massive cycles.
simpllyhuge said:meanwhile as hes saying this he has veins popping out of his forehead.
Even poisons can be used sensibly. Ever heard of Mithridates?mranak said:This argument is just stupid. Methyltrienolone is poison.
There is no sensible use of methyltrienolone in humans.vados said:Even poisons can be used sensibly. Ever heard of Mithridates?
vados said:Someday ill attempt to defeat your theories with practical experience. In about 6 months, or so i suspect. Need my liver values in perfect range before i begin.
We've got medical proof that stuff is horrible for your liver.vados said:Someday ill attempt to defeat your theories with practical experience. In about 6 months, or so i suspect. Need my liver values in perfect range before i begin.
Ive blown a few theories out of the water through personal use. Thats why I seldom if ever comment on a compound I havent used.vados said:Dont get your hopes up, im a sturdy one LOL.![]()
Take a tren molecule and 7-alpha alkalize it and it isn't tren anymore. Rather, it is a distinct molecule with its own distinct properties.simpllyhuge said:whats the point of using it, if u can just use injectable tren.?
I'm wondering if you're stating your opinion or you actually have a source to this.mranak said:Take a tren molecule and 7-alpha alkalize it and it isn't tren anymore. Rather, it is a distinct molecule with its own distinct properties.
Nevertheless, methyltrienolone is extremely liver toxic; it makes dbol look like Jolly Rancher candy. And yet, it isn't anything special from a muscle building standpoint. As such, very few use it and those that do don't use it for long as they are either (1) disappointed by the lack of results or (2) suffering from severe liver toxicity.
simpllyhuge said:whats the point of using it, if u can just use injectable tren.?
I'm stating my perspective based on that facts that I have, some of which are from ppl that used the drug.pineapple said:I'm wondering if you're stating your opinion or you actually have a source to this.
Are you a powerlifter?mranak said:I'm stating my perspective based on that facts that I have, some of which are from ppl that used the drug.
Everything is moderation my ass. Certain things are best left alone.