2nd Cycle, How does this sound?

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CutItalian

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Whats up Vets! I'm planning on running my 2nd cycle sometime late next year, I need some advise for my cycle and let me know how it looks. I'm 5'9", current weight is 165lbs looking to be at 185-195lbs at the beginning of my next cycle. I'm looking to gain some quality ripped muscle, here is my proposed cycle:

-ConcenTrex Test E/C 500mgs a week (14 weeks)
-Lixus, Genesis, or Eurochem Primobolan 400-500mgs a week (14 weeks)
*possibly some anavar not sure if it will make much of a difference. Seems like more of a wallet killer than anything.

PCT-
Clomid 50/50/50/50
or
Nolva 40/40/20/20

* I would use masteron but its harsh on the hairline, and strength gains on primo appear to be much greater. Also I will have arimdex on hand just in case I get gyno from the Test.
 
I think with primo its better to run your test higher to get better gains...

And just because u don't have signs of gyno doesn't mean you don't need an ai...you still have to keep your estro in check
 
Primo will enhance the effects of test which allows you to pin less test than usual in a stack, but see similar gains as with higher test alone doses without the water log. Leaner/quality gains. So running test higher than primo would defeat the purpose of choosing the pricey compound. A mild test dose, with a larger primo dose (600-800mg) would give you the gains you're after if choosing primo in the first place. Primo also has a higher affinity to androgen receptors than test. Meaning it will 'win the fight for androgen reception'. I'm not a pro, but just what I know about primo...
 
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JWS77 said:
Primo will enhance the effects of test which allows you to pin less test than usual in a stack, but see similar gains as with higher test alone doses without the water log. Leaner/quality gains. So running test higher than primo would defeat the purpose of choosing the pricey compound. A mild test dose, with a larger primo dose (600-800mg) would give you the gains you're after if choosing primo in the first place. Primo also has a higher affinity to androgen receptors than test. Meaning it will 'win the fight for androgen reception'. I'm not a pro, but just what I know about primo...
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Ok ok dam...chew my ass holy shit....I don't think I deserved that man
 
Cobra Strike said:
I think with primo its better to run your test higher to get better gains...

And just because u don't have signs of gyno doesn't mean you don't need an ai...you still have to keep your estro in check
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Ok so I should take the arimidex all the way through, at what dose .25mg? and if I start getting gyno bump it up to .50mg?
 
JWS77 said:
Primo will enhance the effects of test which allows you to pin less test than usual in a stack, but see similar gains as with higher test alone doses without the water log. Leaner/quality gains. So running test higher than primo would defeat the purpose of choosing the pricey compound. A mild test dose, with a larger primo dose (600-800mg) would give you the gains you're after if choosing primo in the first place. Primo also has a higher affinity to androgen receptors than test. Meaning it will 'win the fight for androgen reception'. I'm not a pro, but just what I know about primo...
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What would you dose the primo and test at for maximum results?
 
you could run the arimidex at .25mg eod

I dont know a ton about primo except that its weak....I would say 600mg at the minimum....

as far as primo beating test to the receptor my experience has been that primo doesnt work like tren....If det oak reads this thread he can explain this better

JWS77....I thought we were friends bro? ;)
 
Cobra Strike said:
you could run the arimidex at .25mg eod

I dont know a ton about primo except that its weak....I would say 600mg at the minimum....

as far as primo beating test to the receptor my experience has been that primo doesnt work like tren....If det oak reads this thread he can explain this better

JWS77....I thought we were friends bro? ;)
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600mg minimum to how much test? How can I get a hold of Det Oak?
 
Cobra Strike said:
you could run the arimidex at .25mg eod

I dont know a ton about primo except that its weak....I would say 600mg at the minimum....

as far as primo beating test to the receptor my experience has been that primo doesnt work like tren....If det oak reads this thread he can explain this better

JWS77....I thought we were friends bro? ;)
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It doesn't work like tren, tren is more anabolic/androgenic than test. For that reason it differs than primo. The binding affinity of primo is still higher than test.
 
CutItalian said:
Thats a lot of money going into primo, this shit better work!! If you have better cycle suggestions let me know.
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results are broken down too gear, training, and diet. You can get the results you want with just test, if you eat right.
 
On your 2nd cycle and still 5'9" 165lbs? I don't think you need to be running anymore gear until your diet is dialed in. If you've already done one cycle and are starting another and still are that skinny, you obviously aren't eating enough and are just gonna end up wasting more money like you did on your first cycle. I'd hit the diet section and get assistance there before I went any further. It's solid advice....take it for what it's worth.
 
Italiano SPO said:
On your 2nd cycle and still 5'9" 165lbs? I don't think you need to be running anymore gear until your diet is dialed in. If you've already done one cycle and are starting another and still are that skinny, you obviously aren't eating enough and are just gonna end up wasting more money like you did on your first cycle. I'd hit the diet section and get assistance there before I went any further. It's solid advice....take it for what it's worth.
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That is why I am going to wait until late next year for this cycle.
 
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