HoosierMuscle
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Very interesting study. Wish I could have been a lab rat! Suprised that more guys on 300 got acne than those on 600.
300mg vs 600mg of testosterone
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frankybruzer
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really good stuff stonecold
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n8freak
Guest
great read, info well presented.
bippal
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Please do so
heavyiron
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corvettels3
Jackie Moon
good read...
Hockeyplaya18
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Interesting stuff, I've been lurking around here for a while now, I'm preparing to do my first cycle of TEST-E, this post really made me feel comfortable doing 500mg a week for 10 weeks. THANKS!!!!
DADAWG
Community Veteran
if your less than 21 years old hold off , your a testosterone factory at 18-21 years old , if your not making progress you need better diet or training not steroids.
Kristofer68ss
Squats and Deads S&M
Amen.
Hockeyplaya18
New member
No worries, def older than 21 : ) Appreciate the concern though.
Ok, 1st post here! I have been swimming for a while, and I must say all the info here is (for the most part) spot on. I was reading this thread with interest as I JUST finished my 1st cycle of Test E only. I did a LOT of research and reading prior to starting. I consulted with my Dr. and told him exactly what I was intending to do. Dr. and I sat down and planned out all the visits, nutrition supplementation, and measures I needed to maximize the cycle. I also had him prescribe Clomid and Arimidex for me. I have been training for over 5 years.
This was the cycle I chose to use:
Weeks 1-10:
*400mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 11:
*300mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 13:
*1.25mg of finasteride per day
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day
Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day
I can tell you that I gained about 13 lbs total of which 10lbs is solid muscle. Once off, I continued to train at the level I achieved while on. On the visits to the Dr. for bloodwork, my lipid profile actually got BETTER and my liver function was unchanged. My BP went DOWN.
Was 155 / 80 now it is 138 / 72
All the tests came back in a more positive way. We can only assume it was a combo of proper nutrition and the exercise. I did little cardio while on the gear.
I ate 6 times a day and used two of those times with shakes. The majority of protein consumed was either fish or chicken. Very little was red meat.
I trained Mon - Wed - Friday - Sun (every other week)
I work 55 miles from where I live and cross a time zone, so I am limited on when.
Here are some of the things I have noticed on vs. off:
"ON"
1. More reps and less recovery time
2. More weight
3. More energy
4. Less joint issues
"OFF"
1. Fewer reps and a slightly longer recovery time
2. Had to back off the weight a bit.
3. Burn out a tad sooner, could be just lowered caloric intake as I did reduce
4. I take Glucosemine and it helps.... it was like the extra test boosted the effect.
That cycle was from Sept 2011 to Nov 2011.
I have been off the gear since Dec 1.
I will be going back on the gear in March.
This time, I will be using 2x a week @ 300mg for a total of 600mg/week. A shot on Sunday and a shot on Thursday 300mg each.
In addition to that for the last 4 weeks, I will run Ana Anavar (var) @ 20mg/ day on off days and 40mg/ day on training days. I will take the Anavar (var) ½ in the AM and the other ½ prior to gym.
Now, my stats:
Male
47
5'9"
205lbs
14%bf
Bench Max 315
Dumbbell press max 110 each
Leg Press 425
Lat pulldowns 125 each arm
I am wanting to really.. REALLY hit my back and abs this round. I concentrated on Chest / arms last round.. and for the most part I was satisfied.
I am wanting to combine the Anavar (var) near the end of the cycle for two reasons..
1. I noticed it took about 4 - 6 weeks for the test-e to really "start" working.. which is about ½ way in. I understand now why people would run a 16 week cycle.
2. Anavar (var) is a strength / cutting roid. Once I get near the end of the cycle, I am thinking that i will be in the "max" benefit range for the test-e and the Anavar (var) will allow me to up my weight, thus rip more and then gain more. Also, I can taper down the test.. and have a mini bridge to coming off. Maybe, sounds ok to me, but I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Also, if anyone HAS run a cycle with Anavar (var) at the END, please chime in.
As far as the gear, all pharma human grade. The Anavar (var) was NOT cheap! I mean.. DAMN.
The Test-E CHEAP
The Test-e is 200mg/CC and there is 1000mg in each vile.
I used the 23g syringe.
Ok, I think that about sums it up for me. Please comment freely, as I wish to maximize all I can.
This was the cycle I chose to use:
Weeks 1-10:
*400mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 11:
*300mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 13:
*1.25mg of finasteride per day
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day
Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day
I can tell you that I gained about 13 lbs total of which 10lbs is solid muscle. Once off, I continued to train at the level I achieved while on. On the visits to the Dr. for bloodwork, my lipid profile actually got BETTER and my liver function was unchanged. My BP went DOWN.
Was 155 / 80 now it is 138 / 72
All the tests came back in a more positive way. We can only assume it was a combo of proper nutrition and the exercise. I did little cardio while on the gear.
I ate 6 times a day and used two of those times with shakes. The majority of protein consumed was either fish or chicken. Very little was red meat.
I trained Mon - Wed - Friday - Sun (every other week)
I work 55 miles from where I live and cross a time zone, so I am limited on when.
Here are some of the things I have noticed on vs. off:
"ON"
1. More reps and less recovery time
2. More weight
3. More energy
4. Less joint issues
"OFF"
1. Fewer reps and a slightly longer recovery time
2. Had to back off the weight a bit.
3. Burn out a tad sooner, could be just lowered caloric intake as I did reduce
4. I take Glucosemine and it helps.... it was like the extra test boosted the effect.
That cycle was from Sept 2011 to Nov 2011.
I have been off the gear since Dec 1.
I will be going back on the gear in March.
This time, I will be using 2x a week @ 300mg for a total of 600mg/week. A shot on Sunday and a shot on Thursday 300mg each.
In addition to that for the last 4 weeks, I will run Ana Anavar (var) @ 20mg/ day on off days and 40mg/ day on training days. I will take the Anavar (var) ½ in the AM and the other ½ prior to gym.
Now, my stats:
Male
47
5'9"
205lbs
14%bf
Bench Max 315
Dumbbell press max 110 each
Leg Press 425
Lat pulldowns 125 each arm
I am wanting to really.. REALLY hit my back and abs this round. I concentrated on Chest / arms last round.. and for the most part I was satisfied.
I am wanting to combine the Anavar (var) near the end of the cycle for two reasons..
1. I noticed it took about 4 - 6 weeks for the test-e to really "start" working.. which is about ½ way in. I understand now why people would run a 16 week cycle.
2. Anavar (var) is a strength / cutting roid. Once I get near the end of the cycle, I am thinking that i will be in the "max" benefit range for the test-e and the Anavar (var) will allow me to up my weight, thus rip more and then gain more. Also, I can taper down the test.. and have a mini bridge to coming off. Maybe, sounds ok to me, but I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Also, if anyone HAS run a cycle with Anavar (var) at the END, please chime in.
As far as the gear, all pharma human grade. The Anavar (var) was NOT cheap! I mean.. DAMN.
The Test-E CHEAP
The Test-e is 200mg/CC and there is 1000mg in each vile.
I used the 23g syringe.
Ok, I think that about sums it up for me. Please comment freely, as I wish to maximize all I can.
zimmerdj
New member
Agree, double thumbs up.
