350mg Test/350mg Mast E Bulking Blast

[STAUNCHED427]

Finally got my hands on some Masteron Enanthate so have started my 350mg Test E + 350mg Mast E (250mg of each pinned E5D with 2.5 letro MWF) and will be adding some Cialis too.

Plan is to run this stack at these dosages for around 10-15 weeks before either running an aggressive PCT or a 8 week cruise on just ~200mg Test followed by an either Test/Mast/NPP blast or possible cycle if I run on natural systems for 2 months AOK, but that's a subject for another day. Goal is to really bulk on this one and see if Mast can provide the effects I'm after at that dose and equipotent dose of test. If I feel the need to bump Test up to 750mg per week it will be after the 10 week mark but will see how things go.

Anyone else able to commnent on how Mast stacks with Test in a bulking cycle? Will post along here on this thread as I go but have so far only got 5 days into a 500mg Mast frontload as already at 350mg Test per week, I did notice vascularity is getting more notcieable in forearms but I put it down to simple growth and nailing down my training with extra calories and high RBC count as due to get it dumped.

I'm hoping the Mast will keep e2 sides controlled a little better than with just Letro alone and am hoping for that extra fullness and dryness that Mast can provide along with the extra kick ass feeling it gives (felt damn good for the 4 weeks I ran mast at 200mg per week). I also do a lot of cardio and am hoping Mast doesn't affect it although I have never heard of anyone else having issues with it.

I would love to add Deca to this stack and may do so instead at the 10 week mark instead of upping the Test... do so for 10 weeks at 500mg then drop to cruise into summer before running the Test/MAst/Deca stack

Would love comments and experience posts!

 

[Milton]

Look forward to your logs!

 

[Big_rich]

I feel you picked the wrong compound for a all out bulker. Y mast if the goal is size you would b much happier with that sane setup but deca instead of mast leave mast for cutting. You will not reap the benefits of mast with higher bf from my experience. I'd go test deca tbol. Then cut on test mast n tren or other dry compounds

 

[Big_rich]

Mast is a hardening drug to give you that last bit of dryness you need for a show you can use it other ways also but I feel for sheer size test
Deca and dbol is king and try aromasin less harsh compared to letro and for me works great

 

[SJC]

You will not reap the benefits of mast with higher bf

I swear to god I want to slap every fucker in the face that says this. yes Masteron will give you the benefit of "hardening" up but that is only one of the many benefits of a DHT derivative.

I will agree that mast should be used in addition to something else like Dbol, Anadrol, Deca, or Npp for bulking though.

 

[Big_rich]

You can use anadrol to cut but would you, you can usee var when bulkin but wold u no . I take it you've never Ben sub 10% so you probably wouldn't know haha funny to me

 

[Milton]

Keep us posted.

 

[Roush]

its not a very popular choice, but if your wanting to bulk and use masteron in the mix . I'd run something like this.

test 500mg
masteron 600mg
deca 500mg

deca and masteron ran together is effective for either a bulk, a lean bulk, a recomp, etc. IMO. 'Diet dependent' of course. the masteron will work synergistically with the test and deca, and give you a dht based 'androgenic' kick along with test and decas anabolism.

 

[luckypaul]

It stacks well with test for leaner gains and less water retention. It's not as powerful as test, but you will not have issues with e2 like you would with test only.

Unless you have problems with e2 or gyno, I doubt you will need 2.5 mg of letro 3 times a week. Mast doesn't aromatize. You are practically guaranteed to crash your e2.

 

[Fist]

I think Test Mast and NPP would work great. I ran NPP a few times from 2 different brands and both seemed to keep lean bulk gains. I get less water retention on NPP the DECA.

Anyone else have this experience or may have run test mast and npp or DECA together?

 

[49ER]

Up the test 350-the oil/solvents aint much..... You can bulk on anything imo

 

[Onk]

You can use anadrol to cut but would you, you can usee var when bulkin but wold u no . I take it you've never Ben sub 10% so you probably wouldn't know haha funny to me

at that dose, mast won't do fuck all other than lower your SHBG levels - which could be what staunched is doing. That in itself is reason enough to run 200-300/wk

 

[juced_porkchop]

I use letro often and im telling you 2.5mg 3x a week is WAY too much...
0.6mg 3x a week maybe.
reconsider your dose or use stane or dex even... its only 350mg test ew to top it off. even on 750mg ew i wouldent use that much letro and i love letro...

 

[bigben66]

and i love letro...

I'm intrigued Juced.... why do you love letro?

 

[Fist]

All I've ever used is Letro and have listened to what juiced chop has said on dosing, and have always kept dry on each cycle and no lumps or issues to speak of!

 

[49ER]

Juiced chop has been using letro since 2012 as long as ive been here. I like letro too but never bothered finding a sweet spot just use it when e2 gets out of hand

 

[3J]

compounds do not dictate goals..... your diet does...

so i dont see anything specifically wrong with the cycle... though i would take the dosages up a bit

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I swear to god I want to slap every fucker in the face that says this. yes Masteron will give you the benefit of "hardening" up but that is only one of the many benefits of a DHT derivative.

I will agree that mast should be used in addition to something else like Dbol, Anadrol, Deca, or Npp for bulking though.

You bro, are on point, slap them a second one for me.

I might add that I have no expectations for Masteron itself to add in muscle mass, that's what the Test is for (and possibly Deca if I can source good stuff again), but rather the Masteron will provide and act more as an addition to the Test (I am a high aromatase individual), extra agression, strength, extra vasculairty, reduced water retention... All these things can be absolutely helpful in a bulk, especially the water because when I bulk, i fucking BULK hard. My SHBG has always been bottom of the scale even pre-AAS. My idea on AAS is that diet absolutely dictates results more so than AAS. I donno about some of the other guys but when I bulk I literally fill out very well because I eat hard, I could use a compound that helpsd assist in keeping me tighter during this phase, add a little strength and aggression, make me a little hornier, possibly jack my appetite up, and because in all honesty you could bulk on nothing but Masteron, Winny, Anavar only if you really wanted...

Reason for Letro doses at 2.5mg 3x a week is I am one of those dudes that Test = Estrogen City, hence the addition (one reason) of the Masteron and wanting to add Deca in place of more Test. I get along with upto 750mg Deca fine but not equal on the Test.

So far am sitting at 103kg up from 97kg 2 weeks ago, one thing I will point out, some of that is water and I can clearly see this and it goes without saying, this is what I am hoping for the Mast to assit in reducing especially if I go adding Deca, at an estimate I am probably pounding down just over 4k caories with 300g being protein (shold really be counting to optimise this but never the less)

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Little uodate this is week two that I'm in, have notice night sweats comming bac again and I woke up (night sweats do this for me), looking like the water pulled out of me BUT notice a fuller looking whilst lean... Going to get some water in me (guage urine colour and freqency to gauge hydration, time makes everything perfect and after 5 years of training I can maniuplate sodium water levels and see the changes... you never stop learning).

I'm thinking of instead of throwing in deca, rather get myself some dbol as use it either PRN whilst the masteron run is going or say 20mg per day for 4-6 weeks and see exactly how dbol would stack up.

Also changing this to a lean bulk and relax on the sodium intake (which as we all know is everyones bloat inducer if steroids are involved. Diet absolutely plays the major role in soidum levels+ASS style bloating for anyone who hasn't already reliased this.. It's true). Also I feel unfit and out of breath (have stopped cardio for a month now tho and it's a water/Blood pressure issue from sodium and water and excess carbs) without Cialis whilst extrmeley bulking

 

[49ER]

try eating hard without aas