4 weeks in, Sustanon (sust) , EQ , Winny cycle. Adding Tren?

[PhillyPA#1]

4 weeks in, Sust , EQ , Winny cycle. Adding Tren?

Ok so I am 4 weeks into my cycle
EQ 400mg weeks 1-10
Sust 600 weeks 1-10
Winny weeks 1-4

I want to add tren at 75 EOD, when would be best to add tren and for how long should I run it?

I am 26yo
6'0
225
17.5 arms
13% bf
2nd cycle.

 

[snowball]

for comp you add it the last 4 wks, you can also drop the eq and replace with tren . they recomend 6 wks because of the toxic stress on the liver. there realy is no benifit to doing tren and eq same time there both androgens , its preferance, i love tren hands down

 

[Strega]

"there realy is no benifit to doing tren and eq same time there both androgens"

Man, thats some heavy knowledge!


Dude, this is your SECOND cycle? You already have 3 compounds running and you want to add a fourth? Why?

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Becuase im not gettin g the results that I want. I want to harden up and become vascular. I should of ran test p , mast, tren instead of my current cycle. Im big enough. Ive got good mass and relitivly low BF, but I need to harden up. I look soft and lack defination.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

bump

 

[HeHateMe]

Becuase im not gettin g the results that I want. I want to harden up and become vascular. Im big enough. Ive got good mass and relitivly low BF, but I need to harden up. I look soft and lack defination.

Your diet is probably lacking. If you look soft and lack definition with low bodyfat you're probably holding too much water.

Maybe increase your cardio? Look into thermogenics?

Running three compounds and wanting to add a fourth on a second cycle is borderline insanity IMO. The drugs aren't miracle pills/solutions. You do have to do your part (training, diet, recuperation). Throwing compounds around like M&Ms isn't the way to go about it.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Your diet is probably lacking. If you look soft and lack definition with low bodyfat you're probably holding too much water.

Maybe increase your cardio? Look into thermogenics?

Running three compounds and wanting to add a fourth on a second cycle is borderline insanity IMO. The drugs aren't miracle pills/solutions. You do have to do your part (training, diet, recuperation). Throwing compounds around like M&Ms isn't the way to go about it.

Dude, I lift 5 days do cardio 7 days. Im a good size, with a mod low bf. its my genetics. Im not vascular or very defined. Compounds based of DHT such as masteron have a tendency to shape and give the muscles a harder look. Tren can also cause vascularity. Thats why I mention maybe adding another compound. I know that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) are not magic, There are merely an assistant. I put in the work bro. Lets get the straight. I wasn't looking to be flamed.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Holy shit........a fuckin'mazing.

I really don't know what to say........maybe add in another 4 or 5 steroids.

Seriously, if you are not making good gains with what you're taking now, there is something seriously lacking with your diet, training, rest, or a combination of all those.

Not to mention you are majorly impatient. You are only 4 weeks into this cycle, give it some time for those long esters to fully kick in.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Holy shit........a fuckin'mazing.

I really don't know what to say........maybe add in another 4 or 5 steroids.

Seriously, if you are not making good gains with what you're taking now, there is something seriously lacking with your diet, training, rest, or a combination of all those.

Not to mention you are majorly impatient. You are only 4 weeks into this cycle, give it some time for those long esters to fully kick in.

I did ten weeks of test E immediatly prior to this current cycle. Or you could consider it one long cycle. In the first 10 weeks of the cycle, I gained 16 pounds (all of it within the first 4 weeks). After the 10th week I started these current compounds, since ive lost weight, due to a much more strict diet and daily cardio, however my gains have slowed considerably.

 

[Phil9999]

i have found that for me that the more steroids i have in my cycle the higher my blood pressure increases

 

[estray]

Dude, I lift 5 days do cardio 7 days. Im .

Quit doing so much fuckin cardio. How bout NO days a week.

 

[PhillyPA#1]

Quit doing so much fuckin cardio. How bout NO days a week.

Im trying to lower my B.F. %.