400mg tren , what to expect ...

[darkwing86]

So this will be my 4th cycle . Doing 700mg test and 400mg tren . have ai and prami . I know tren a would have been ideal , but I couldn't get my hands on it . only have e so ill
have to deal with any sides if worse comes to it but I think ill handle it . what would u guys say for expectations here and thank you

 

[China_Wall]

diet will determine what you will get from it... and it really depends where you are at currently (how many years training, bf%, age....)

 

[darkwing86]

27 , traning 4 years , 205lb 5'7" 10%bf . diet is very good id say . very high protein aiming always for 2g per lb and lots of clean carbs and vegetables , minerals vitamins etc. what would someone say to expect (rough estimate in ideal conditions) to gain from a cycle like this ? 5-10 lean lb's?

 

[China_Wall]

27 , traning 4 years , 205lb 5'7" 10%bf . diet is very good id say . very high protein aiming always for 2g per lb and lots of clean carbs and vegetables , minerals vitamins etc. what would someone say to expect (rough estimate in ideal conditions) to gain from a cycle like this ? 5-10 lean lb's?

over a 3-4 month period 5 lean lbs would be a reasonable goal

 

[100lbulua]

Sounds like you have a good base being 205 at that weight. Are you gonna post pics? Goodluck

 

[darkwing86]

In the one picture , was 198lb this summer . the other was 212 or so on bulk the winter before the cut

 

[Repo]

You should do great with the combo of test and tren along with the
rest of the info provided.

Tren is my favorite... other than night sweats the sides don't bother me
but everyone is different.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I'd go 200mg Test/400mg Tren to be honest... I've just started Week 2 of it ATM and will be going for 10 weeks. It is a bulking blast for me, I'll keep you updated.

 

[XELFLEC]

I'd go 200mg Test/400mg Tren to be honest... I've just started Week 2 of it ATM and will be going for 10 weeks. It is a bulking blast for me, I'll keep you updated.

Yeah that is my preference also.
I pretty much prefer low test everything. .
My body and High test just doesn't work well.

I'm take everyday 50mg tren, 75mg mast, 25 prop , 100 clen and I have almost no sides besides being shredded as fuck. The list is a lot longer but it's kinda common stuff you should take.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

High test just causes me gyno issues.. It again made my gyno flare up and is at an all-time worst just recently. I will still continue the Tren blast, possibly dropping the Test to 150mg instead of 200mg (I blast and cruise on 200mg T) and am currently running 120mg Raloxifene+.5mg Pramipexole to try and fuck it off!

 

[Forged by Failure]

I know you can expect some crazy ass pumps. Im running 250 test e and 350 ace atm, along with HCG, Stane, peptides, Prami, and Cialis and I swear I get a pump if I eat high GI foods... I was cutting for a while though so my insulin sensitivity is prolly crazy high. I have never had any aggression issues from gear but I get irritated very ez

 

[Repo]

Actually lowering the test is a good idea...

My first tren cycle was very close to yours - and I have sense lowered the test
as mentioned by STAUNCHED427.

I haven't brought it down to 200... but I usually run my test around 300-400 with tren slightly higher
and at times my tren much higher - but that's for a different discussion.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Repo, do you stick to Test+Tren cycles only? How does your bloodwork come back?

I have come across a lot of people saying after they tried Tren, they don't see any point not using it in their cycles and that it puts all other AAS to shame.

 

[Southernfish]

I'm take everyday 50mg tren, 75mg mast, 25 prop , 100 clen and I have almost no sides besides being shredded as fuck.

Lmao, fuck ya!!

 

[kataklysum]

I'd go 200mg Test/400mg Tren to be honest... I've just started Week 2 of it ATM and will be going for 10 weeks. It is a bulking blast for me, I'll keep you updated.

I've ran the same dosages + kicked it with 100mg drol a day. Strength gains were out of this world on the drol and by the time the tren kicked in it just solidified the strength gains and added some nice LBM

 

[darkwing86]

Awesome , well im definetly exited for the run . All the talk is hyping me up lol so be starting end of next week . im not sure what to do with the test . ive never had issues yet running test at 700mg even with little to no AI at least as far as gyno is concerned but ill have prami for the tren incase .

 

[Southernfish]

I have ran high Test and high Tren and I didnt have any issue at all, it all depends on the person but if you can keep estrogen under control then prolactin issues shouldnt bother you too much. You never know until you try. But, either way, Trens a drug you eithet can or cant deal with regardless of anything.

 

[Harnold]

Yeah that is my preference also.
I pretty much prefer low test everything. .
My body and High test just doesn't work well.

I'm take everyday 50mg tren, 75mg mast, 25 prop , 100 clen and I have almost no sides besides being shredded as fuck. The list is a lot longer but it's kinda common stuff you should take.

I was gonna recommend lowering the test dosage as well staunched.

 

[appleton111]

are you experiencing any gyno from the test?

 

[darkwing86]

never had any gyno issue ever from test, and went up to 700mg per week with little to no AI .