700mg of test - how much over natty levels does that bring you ?

[darkwing86]

So i know that everyone is different and can be at different levels and bloodwork would be ideal to tell .. but im sure theres a rough similarity to where 700mg of test would bring a person ... im just wondering how much over normal levels will a dose like that bring a person .. Im sure i know halfwit can chime in with the answer . we spoke about something similar once .. or if any of you TRT or anyone can chim ein and help .. thx guys .

 

[halfwit]

3500-5000ng/dL is pretty much the norm. I'm on the lower end, but some might break 6k+ at that dose. Of course UGLs can throw those numbers off if their gear is under/overdosed.

 

[darkwing86]

God damn that was quick half-wit .. thank you ... again . i wish i could 1+rep u right now ... ill have to spread some more first .. but its coming ... thanks again !

 

[darkwing86]

And so normal ranges being around 350-1200 ...... thats quite the elevation ... i wonder how much more anabolic activity and how much more advantage the body can take with all that increase . Any clue how much can be utilized properly ?

 

[halfwit]

God damn that was quick half-wit .. thank you ... again . i wish i could 1+rep u right now ... ill have to spread some more first .. but its coming ... thanks again !

Lol, just hiding and surfing while counting down the minutes to lunch break haha. It's the thought that counts.

 

[halfwit]

And so normal ranges being around 350-1200 ...... thats quite the elevation ... i wonder how much more anabolic activity and how much more advantage the body can take with all that increase . Any clue how much can be utilized properly ?

Oiiii, that one is tricky to answer as it relies on several other factors. There certainly is a point of diminishing returns, where increasing doses simply only brings on more side effects (damn blood pressure is a bitch at several grams per week - WITH meds) with minimal gains.

There's also the genetic side of the question too. Androgen receptor generation (down regulation is hooey) and sensitivity is a big one. Of course myostatin inhibition is another huge factor as that's kind of the body's check valve for how much mass you can acquire. Let's not forget insulin sensitivity too; hard to put food to work if your pancreas can't keep up with the demand for glucose and nutrients.

Where that ceiling is will take some experimentation for sure. I've gone over 2g of pharmaceutical testosterone per week to see (actually I was chasing a number) where it would take me. I honestly saw little difference between 2g and 1.5g/wk, except that poor vial draining a little faster. This is an good reason why stacking different compounds can achieve better results, as you can see more anabolism with less hormone.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[darkwing86]

Thank you so much Halfwit .. thats exactly what i was trying to get at and figure out ... Man u are a font or information ! .. great to have u here man !

 

[Hypnotix]

Thank you so much Halfwit .. thats exactly what i was trying to get at and figure out ... Man u are a font or information ! .. great to have u here man !

He's like a living encyclopedia of bodybuilding.. one that actively pursues new information and updates his volumes regularly.

I can honestly say I'd rather meet him, than 99% of the top tier competitive bb'rs out there, even past ones.. Wouldn't it be ironic though.. if he was in that 1% that I would care to meet?

Seriously great dude though, bends over backwards for his bros on Ology.

 

[Megatron28]

Over normal levels?

Yes.

 

[halfwit]

He's like a living encyclopedia of bodybuilding.. one that actively pursues new information and updates his volumes regularly.

I can honestly say I'd rather meet him, than 99% of the top tier competitive bb'rs out there, even past ones.. Wouldn't it be ironic though.. if he was in that 1% that I would care to meet?

Seriously great dude though, bends over backwards for his bros on Ology.

Lol, appreciate the kind words - but I'm not a pro bodybuilder. It would be amazing if I could at 6'7" though!

 

[inhaus]

Lol, appreciate the kind words - but I'm not a pro bodybuilder. It would be amazing if I could at 6'7" though!

I was wondering what your height was after that comment... I'm hoping to be one day and just a hair under 6'1". time will tell...

 

[halfwit]

I was wondering what your height was after that comment... I'm hoping to be one day and just a hair under 6'1". time will tell...

It's an uphill battle as the current state of bodybuilding desires mass monsters over anything else. To even appear nearly as big, tall guys have to weigh in at insane poundages. Doable? I think so. Just going to have to work twice as hard.

 

[Hypnotix]

It's an uphill battle as the current state of bodybuilding desires mass monsters over anything else. To even appear nearly as big, tall guys have to weigh in at insane poundages. Doable? I think so. Just going to have to work twice as hard.

Does this mean you're pursuing getting on stage?

Here's the way I look at it. 100m sprints were dominated by people under 6 foot for centuries? Then along came that one really tall guy that took the time to develop himself and just crushed the best times.

If he can take over sprinting. You can take a swing at bodybuilding. If someone 6'7" developed them self to that of Phil Heaths scale.. only larger weight, height.. short people would no longer dominate. Would just take a genetic elite tall individual to go the distance one time.

 

[halfwit]

Does this mean you're pursuing getting on stage?

Here's the way I look at it. 100m sprints were dominated by people under 6 foot for centuries? Then along came that one really tall guy that took the time to develop himself and just crushed the best times.

If he can take over sprinting. You can take a swing at bodybuilding. If someone 6'7" developed them self to that of Phil Heaths scale.. only larger weight, height.. short people would no longer dominate. Would just take a genetic elite tall individual to go the distance one time.

I have several friends that have been trying to get me on the stage for some time. It will probably happen, but I still have a ways to go before I feel I can truly contend. My original goal was just to reach 300lbs at 10% body fat by the time I'm 40. I'm pretty sure I'll reach that milestone, then work my way from there.

Stranger things have happened.

 

[cybrsage]

I say go for it!

 

[Megatron28]

I have several friends that have been trying to get me on the stage for some time. It will probably happen, but I still have a ways to go before I feel I can truly contend. My original goal was just to reach 300lbs at 10% body fat by the time I'm 40. I'm pretty sure I'll reach that milestone, then work my way from there.

Stranger things have happened.

You are a powerlifter at heart. What kind of talk is this?

 

[Hypnotix]

You are a powerlifter at heart. What kind of talk is this?

Stop.. don't turn him away from his true calling. Lol

How many pro bb'rs come from power lifting backgrounds? I know two off the top of my head that most everyone knows.. Flex Lewis, and Arnie. Neither are 6ft 7in.. though haha

It'd be like Brian Shaw, 6ft 8in, 434lbs.. cutting down and hopping on stage... fucking 430lbs..

Makes me feel like such a bitch.

 

[Charles Bronson]

God damn that was quick half-wit .. thank you ... again . i wish i could 1+rep u right now ... ill have to spread some more first .. but its coming ... thanks again !

got your back homie..


i repped him... again

 

[inhaus]

Stop.. don't turn him away from his true calling. Lol

How many pro bb'rs come from power lifting backgrounds? I know two off the top of my head that most everyone knows.. Flex Lewis, and Arnie. Neither are 6ft 7in.. though haha

It'd be like Brian Shaw, 6ft 8in, 434lbs.. cutting down and hopping on stage... fucking 430lbs..

Makes me feel like such a bitch.

Yea, me being just under 6'1 it's def doable, but I feel like it's barely doable. 6'7 like halfwit would be a daunting task but like said, anything is possible and the right person could certainly do it. BUT on the arnold height, there are many reports that arnold was frauding his height and is more like 5'10... I wouldn't doubt it, that dude has always done anything in the realm of deception to elevate himself, wouldn't be surprised if he wore lifts every day of his life just to keep that up.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I have several friends that have been trying to get me on the stage for some time. It will probably happen, but I still have a ways to go before I feel I can truly contend. My original goal was just to reach 300lbs at 10% body fat by the time I'm 40. I'm pretty sure I'll reach that milestone, then work my way from there.

Stranger things have happened.

thats massive man! im only like 5' 8 so for me 240-250 is more than enough hahaha. i got called big at only 185 hahaha