A little detective help please! AML cycle

[Blackops77]

I think I am losing my mind. I am a little over two-thirds into an 80 day cycle from AML, and for the last two weeks straight, my bench press has been going down. 2 weeks ago I benched 275x8 on my 5th set, and for the last two weeks (including tonight), after three sets of 225x10, I could not lift 275 even once. WTF? I am currently running 1ml Andro T300 and 1ml Masteron Enanthate, pinning both together every 4th day. So, 300mg of the Andro T300 and 200mg of the Mast E every 4 days. I am also taking .25mg Anastrozole every 3rd day, even though I know the Mast is supposed to help keep the Estradiol in line. I suspected that my strength would go through the roof, not the floor. I really have no explanation for it.

If anyone could offer a possible explanation, I'd really appreciate some input.

Below are the results of my blood tests on 12/28/12. I'll be going back for new bloods in a couple of weeks.
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[O]

Have you seen strength gains up until now? Those test levels seem a bit low for the dosage you're using. You're taking close to 500mg test a week, should be well over the 1500 cap that most tests have. IDK I could be wrong here.

Other than that...there's the obvious stuff like are you consistently eating enough? Adding any new supplements? Is your weight consistently going up?

 

[4everBulking]

Have you seen strength gains up until now? Those test levels seem a bit low for the dosage you're using. You're taking close to 500mg test a week, should be well over the 1500 cap that most tests have. IDK I could be wrong here.

Other than that...there's the obvious stuff like are you consistently eating enough? Adding any new supplements? Is your weight consistently going up?

He's only taking 300mgs/wk of test it's every 4days there's 7days a week not 8.

 

[O]

He's only taking 300mgs/wk of test it's every 4days there's 7days a week not 8.

So he is taking 600mg every 8 days then correct? That would be a little over 500mg a week averaged out. Unless I'm missing something here.

 

[Blackops77]

Have you seen strength gains up until now? Those test levels seem a bit low for the dosage you're using. You're taking close to 500mg test a week, should be well over the 1500 cap that most tests have. IDK I could be wrong here.

Other than that...there's the obvious stuff like are you consistently eating enough? Adding any new supplements? Is your weight consistently going up?

My strength initially went up, but not considerably. I haven't added any new supplements and have certainly not been eating any less. Plus, my diet is relatively clean. My weight has gone up by 3-4 lbs, which is fine, because what I would actually like to do is change my body composition to be more defined. I have also been doing cardio to drop some extra fat, but that is also slow going. Still, with everything else being equal, the strength drop doesn't make sense to me. I thought last week was an anomaly and chalked it up to "one of those things", but man am I perplexed.

I've heard nothing but good about AML, but is it remotely possible that it could be under dosed?

And, the way I looked at the dosage was to take the 80 days (11.43 weeks and 6,000mg), divide it into 20 pins (300mg per), and have an average of 525mg/wk (524.93 to be specific). I'm not sure if that is exactly the way to figure the dosage correctly, but it seems right to me.

 

[Blackops77]

Prior to this, I was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) from an endo at 200mg test cyp every other wk, but still felt like hell. My HPTA crashed from nandrolone and couldn't seem to get it kick-started again on my own. But, the ups and downs from the eow test cyp was not great. I sure as hell don't understand why the dosing schedule, knowing test cyp's half life, would have ever been eow anyway.

 

[Blackops77]

Have you seen strength gains up until now? Those test levels seem a bit low for the dosage you're using. You're taking close to 500mg test a week, should be well over the 1500 cap that most tests have. IDK I could be wrong here.

Other than that...there's the obvious stuff like are you consistently eating enough? Adding any new supplements? Is your weight consistently going up?

Oh, and those bloods were drawn relatively early in the cycle, so that could be the reason that the total t was where it was then. I guess when I have bloods re-drawn in a couple of weeks, that will tell the tale.

 

[Trust_]

AML gear is not underdosed, there are other possible factors why this would happen. Are you saying you gained strength from week 1 to 8 and now you hit a plateau? Maybe you re overtrained, maybe you re low on glycogen, maybe you re not sleeping enough.
Also, keep in mind you re running a pretty mild cycle. 500 test is what we suggest for 1st cycles. The mast will not give you crazy strength either.
This sounds like a case of overtraining imo.
keep us posted bro

 

[josephblow]

AML gear is not underdosed, there are other possible factors why this would happen. Are you saying you gained strength from week 1 to 8 and now you hit a plateau? Maybe you re overtrained, maybe you re low on glycogen, maybe you re not sleeping enough.
Also, keep in mind you re running a pretty mild cycle. 500 test is what we suggest for 1st cycles. The mast will not give you crazy strength either.
This sounds like a case of overtraining imo.
keep us posted bro

Potency may not be a factor . My T400 is crystalized like a mother fucker. Added it to another bottle of tren and it was fine.

 

[josephblow]

What's your training schedule, cardio, diet? Like they said above, you may be overtraining. I sometimes found out that less is more. Rest is huge when building. I also like to use 600mg of test a week , found the best gains that way.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

There's no such thing as overtraining. There's just such thing as under eating or under sleeping.

 

[gtower]

Test numbers should be higher here I think as well. 500 week is almost 10X normal body levels.
It will be interesting to see the next blood results.

So he is taking 600mg every 8 days then correct? That would be a little over 500mg a week averaged out. Unless I'm missing something here.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

1180 sounds right if you took 300 mg per week and tested day of next pin ... but not if your on more

 

[O]

1180 sounds right if you took 300 mg per week and tested day of next pin ... but not if your on more

He said 300mg every 4 days which = 525mg/week.

 

[Blackops77]

AML gear is not underdosed, there are other possible factors why this would happen. Are you saying you gained strength from week 1 to 8 and now you hit a plateau? Maybe you re overtrained, maybe you re low on glycogen, maybe you re not sleeping enough.
Also, keep in mind you re running a pretty mild cycle. 500 test is what we suggest for 1st cycles. The mast will not give you crazy strength either.
This sounds like a case of overtraining imo.
keep us posted bro

I'm definitely not sleeping enough, but that also isn't a change. I think I am doing the 500mg, plus a bit, every week. Am I figuring dosages wrong? Do you have to use the 500mg all at once so that the 500mg is all available at once? I thought that pinning more often stabilized blood levels, and that dosing schedules should be based on the half life of the compound. It does make sense, though, that the highest blood serum t level I could get would be whatever was available at once. So, I inject 300mg, wait 4 days, and then inject another 300mg, and by then, especially with a couple of the shorter esters, I'm already on the decline, then another 300, and it just goes up a bit higher than the first pin. What are your thoughts on this? Would it be better to use 400-500mg pinned every 5th or 6th day instead?

I'm working each body part every 3-6 days, depending on body part. I gotta admit, I work chest a little more often than anything else because that's always the second favorite body part of mine that the girls I've been with have liked. The other is....my brain. Ha!

My eating hasn't changed, so I don't think that would cause it. I don't think it's my head, because I truly thought it was just an off day at first. Don't know fellas, maybe it's the bastard father time trying to grab me. I will turn 42 soon and hate every minute of it. I yearn for the ignorance and vanity of my youth.

Glycogen, huh? Now that's an interesting one I hadn't thought of. Obviously, cardio depletes glycogen stores. And, both days I did treadmill work between my 4th and 5th sets of bench. I'm normally stronger when I go back after a bit of a break and can lift a lot more. That is a bit of a change from my normal routine, because I have upped my cardio to 30-45 minutes of treadmill workouts, transitioning hills, keeping my heart rate between 140-170bpm. I go from an incline of 0 for two minutes to an incline of 30 for one minute, then repeat until I hit an arbitrary goal in my head, whether it's calories, distance, time, etc. So, next week I will refrain from doing cardio until AFTER all muscle work is done. I will feel relieved, yet like a dumb-ass, if it is that simple. I'll keep you posted.

Also, thanks for your time and your input guys.

 

[halfwit]

I can't comment on strength gains as that is something that always fluctuates with me. But I can say that some of us require more testosterone to reach those supraphysiological levels. Unfortunately, hormones are not a one-size-fits-all type of substance as some of us see large leaps in blood serum levels at 300mg a week, while folks like me won't see the same results until 600mg/wk. There are a ton of reasons for this, some of which the medical community still hasn't figured out. (I can't speak for the potency of AML's product yet, but there are several happy customers on this board that can.)

Keep pinning 2x a week, it does keep your hormone levels nice and steady. It's the half-life of the drug that determines how it adds up over time in your bloodstream, which is roughly 8 days for the longer esters. Your body sees the 262.5mg of test in such a short period as 525mg as the first shot has not completely evacuated your system by the time your second and third shots are performed. This is why you don't feel the effects/benefits of long esters for 4-5 weeks - it takes that long for them to build up in your bloodstream to an appreciable level.

I would like to see your new results if you plan on doing them however.

My .02c

 

[ErectusMaximus]

I have to say WHENEVER I am left scratching my head about something 99% of the time its fixed with a few good nights sleep.

 

[Trust_]

140 - 170 bpm is too much imo, especially during your bb training. You re doing endurance training.
You should do your cardio at the end of your training sessions and not go over 130bpm.
That is if muscle size is your priority. If you go over 130, your body may start eating proteins as a source of energy (your muscles) as the glycogen pool may not suffice the energy needs.
The glycogen theory is a good one in your case. You can be the strongest man on earth, without glycogen in your muscle you wont be able to lift a pencil.
Why do we lift less as we progress into our training. Because glycogen being the muscles energy is being depleted from the muscle as we go along. Most of the glycogen is stored in our liver, but it takes a while to go from liver to replenish the muscle glycogen. If you do heavy cardio, imo theres no way you will be stronger afterwards, as your global energy levels will get lower. Keep in mind that AAS does not only increase metabolism, the part where our muscles get ''repaired'' ...AAS also increases muscle catabolism. In other words, if your on juice, you will destroy your muscles more when you train, and they will have an increased reparation rate. This is why AAS are so good, it helps us destroy more muscle then repairs it 3 times faster...
2 shots a week is perfect.
Try to sleep well...i mean bad sleeping habits may not do anything right away, but it is over time you may notice sides. Like you said, you re turning 42 ( same here bro, i know what you mean) we cant just party all night and work all day like we used to hahaha...
The gear potency is not the issue, i give you my word that AML does NOT underdose. They actually overdose 2 to 5% to make up for losses in needle tip/vial...
keep us posted man!
Take care!

 

[Mike24]

On any cycle I've been on, if your not sleeping enough, your body is not recovering. If your not recovering. Your not building muscle. Your going to maintain. IMO

I could be wrong.

 

[Matt0071]

i dont understand what u are trying to do honestly, like dont get me wrong cardio is great, but why would u do 30-45 min of cardio getting your bpm up to 170, then trying to lift heavy, doesnt make awhole lot of sense, if anything like stated above, do your cardio after lifting weights, not before!
Either u cut or bulk, def sounds like u are trying to do both to me, lol, and it's def not the gear underdosed bro