"All AAS use, leads to abuse" what are you thoughts on this statement?

Proper diet, proper compound dosages, proper cycle lengths, the right ancillaries, the right pct, time off, bloodwork, training, laying off the alcohol on cycle, RESEARCH, etc. how many ppl can you honestly say have done all that?

Well the only people I know who do aas is you guys so it is hard to say. Im gonna guess that they don't really do all that stuff.

I figured that I got 2 years or so to figure all that crap out so hopefully I'll be good haha
 
Proper diet, proper compound dosages, proper cycle lengths, the right ancillaries, the right pct, time off, bloodwork, training, laying off the alcohol on cycle, RESEARCH, etc. how many ppl can you honestly say have done all that?

Not nearly enough. Abuse in my opinion is ignoring risks to achieve a desired result. A person that abuses cocaine does so without taking the risks into consideration or ignores them as they have a goal of getting high. A person that abuses AAS is one that ignores the risks and seeks the goal of obtaining a certain body image they have in their mind. Anything can be abused (food for example), the big difference is when one acknowledges these risks and takes steps to be as safe as possible and level headed enough to know when to stop using the drug/substance/item. Blood pressure pushing 190/100? STOP THE AAS. Having heart palpitations and getting terrible anxiety? STOP THE STIMS. Reaching 40% body fat? STOP EATING SO MUCH FOOD.

There are obvious exceptions to these, but it's really being able to stop what you're doing when the risk versus reward is no longer favorable. You're either suffering from a mental illness or an idiot if stopping when death is imminent or permanent damage is on the horizon. That's the difference between use and abuse in my humble opinion.

My .02c :)
 
Not nearly enough. Abuse in my opinion is ignoring risks to achieve a desired result. A person that abuses cocaine does so without taking the risks into consideration or ignores them as they have a goal of getting high. A person that abuses AAS is one that ignores the risks and seeks the goal of obtaining a certain body image they have in their mind. Anything can be abused (food for example), the big difference is when one acknowledges these risks and takes steps to be as safe as possible and level headed enough to know when to stop using the drug/substance/item. Blood pressure pushing 190/100? STOP THE AAS. Having heart palpitations and getting terrible anxiety? STOP THE STIMS. Reaching 40% body fat? STOP EATING SO MUCH FOOD.

There are obvious exceptions to these, but it's really being able to stop what you're doing when the risk versus reward is no longer favorable. You're either suffering from a mental illness or an idiot if stopping when death is imminent or permanent damage is on the horizon. That's the difference between use and abuse in my humble opinion.

My .02c :)

This is so true but can be said for anything. I mean if you are so addicted to the gym that you can't go out and be social that's bad too.

All things in moderation people!!
 
Not nearly enough. Abuse in my opinion is ignoring risks to achieve a desired result. A person that abuses cocaine does so without taking the risks into consideration or ignores them as they have a goal of getting high. A person that abuses AAS is one that ignores the risks and seeks the goal of obtaining a certain body image they have in their mind. Anything can be abused (food for example), the big difference is when one acknowledges these risks and takes steps to be as safe as possible and level headed enough to know when to stop using the drug/substance/item. Blood pressure pushing 190/100? STOP THE AAS. Having heart palpitations and getting terrible anxiety? STOP THE STIMS. Reaching 40% body fat? STOP EATING SO MUCH FOOD.

There are obvious exceptions to these, but it's really being able to stop what you're doing when the risk versus reward is no longer favorable. You're either suffering from a mental illness or an idiot if stopping when death is imminent or permanent damage is on the horizon. That's the difference between use and abuse in my humble opinion.

My .02c :)

That etc was a back door left open just for you buddy. I knew I was forgetting some stuff :D
 
aas are not addicting!!! they don't lead to abuse!!!!
I just got my order today and I been off for a whole year.... I may have been counting down every minute till I got my order and went and slammed back 3cc's and a dbol before Ieven finished opening the rest of the packaging.... but that's totally normal :D
 
Not nearly enough. Abuse in my opinion is ignoring risks to achieve a desired result. A person that abuses cocaine does so without taking the risks into consideration or ignores them as they have a goal of getting high. A person that abuses AAS is one that ignores the risks and seeks the goal of obtaining a certain body image they have in their mind. Anything can be abused (food for example), the big difference is when one acknowledges these risks and takes steps to be as safe as possible and level headed enough to know when to stop using the drug/substance/item. Blood pressure pushing 190/100? STOP THE AAS. Having heart palpitations and getting terrible anxiety? STOP THE STIMS. Reaching 40% body fat? STOP EATING SO MUCH FOOD.

There are obvious exceptions to these, but it's really being able to stop what you're doing when the risk versus reward is no longer favorable. You're either suffering from a mental illness or an idiot if stopping when death is imminent or permanent damage is on the horizon. That's the difference between use and abuse in my humble opinion.

My .02c :)

See!!!! If people woulld just read all of halfwits material then there would be no abuse...lol...Your 2 cents is always welcome brother. I have learn more from you than any other person on here, besides my own research!
 
See!!!! If people woulld just read all of halfwits material then there would be no abuse...lol...Your 2 cents is always welcome brother. I have learn more from you than any other person on here, besides my own research!

I agree. Him and Austin are always dropping knowledge like its bombs over Baghdad!!!! Keep up your 2 centing Half, not nearly enough ppl get to see it and learn form it.
 
I agree. Him and Austin are always dropping knowledge like its bombs over Baghdad!!!! Keep up your 2 centing Half, not nearly enough ppl get to see it and learn form it.

Was that dropping bombs over Baghdad really necessary? You do understand that innocent civilians are being killed everyday. Every fucking day. But what do you care right? Typical American perspective and point of view. I had a high opinion of you until you said that shit. Americans are the biggest terrorists in this world, and everyone believes that except for yourselves.
 
Was that dropping bombs over Baghdad really necessary? You do understand that innocent civilians are being killed everyday. Every fucking day. But what do you care right? Typical American perspective and point of view. I had a high opinion of you until you said that shit. Americans are the biggest terrorists in this world, and everyone believes that except for yourselves.

It's an expression and I'm 100% sure Doc meant no harm or disrespect. You would certainly feel silly if you knew doc as he is not your "typical" American. ;)
 
It's an expression and I'm 100% sure Doc meant no harm or disrespect. You would certainly feel silly if you knew doc as he is not your "typical" American. ;)

With comments like that it seems like he is. To be honest it's not even funny joking about that stuff. I'm not even Middle Eastern I'm from Australia but comments like that just aren't necessary to be honest. Call me overreacting but I just don't see the point in saying what he did, even if it was a joke.
 
Hey, guys, wanna know something... I don't give a flying fuck about what goes on in and around the globe. I don't fucking care about anyyyy news, or shit like that. Fuck! I didn't even know about this flooding two proviences over... I don't care about the war, i don't care about the religious rebellious fuckery... And i sure as hell don't care about the people that died in the car cash the other day..

I might've sounded like a total fucking ass just now but, this shit doesn't affect me. I don't lose sleep over it, and I still go on with my life. PERIOD!

I'm not the typical person... Sorry to break it to you..
 
With comments like that it seems like he is. To be honest it's not even funny joking about that stuff. I'm not even Middle Eastern I'm from Australia but comments like that just aren't necessary to be honest. Call me overreacting but I just don't see the point in saying what he did, even if it was a joke.

fuck you, fuck the middle east, fuck australia, fuck baghdad....stop being a little pc pussy

p.s. fuck the united states too
 
fuck you, fuck the middle east, fuck australia, fuck baghdad....stop being a little pc pussy

Ah look another little American cretin has crawled out from under his cave. Fuck everyone but America right? You are a joke. You are the stereotypical fuckwit douchebag think he's a tough cunt American, who thinks America is beautiful and perfect and the land for opportunity. Shut the fuck up you deluded yank.
 
Ah look another little American cretin has crawled out from under his cave. Fuck everyone but America right? You are a joke. You are the stereotypical fuckwit douchebag think he's a tough cunt American, who thinks America is beautiful and perfect and the land for opportunity. Shut the fuck up you deluded yank.

what the fuck are you on about? i said fuck the united states. that is part of america last i checked
 
I believe "Bombs Over Baghdad" is an old school song by Outkast... yep, definitely is. I remember gettin down to that shit in like 8th grade. Youtube it.
 
Ah look another little American cretin has crawled out from under his cave. Fuck everyone but America right? You are a joke. You are the stereotypical fuckwit douchebag think he's a tough cunt American, who thinks America is beautiful and perfect and the land for opportunity. Shut the fuck up you deluded yank.

I'm just gonna throw this out there... maybe I'm wrong but... your posts are always the douchiest hate filled pieces of shit I read on this site. You are a waste of human life. How do you have 213 posts of nothing contributed other than trying to fucking argue with everyone and flop your little dick around in everyones face? Just curious yanno?
 
I'm just gonna throw this out there... maybe I'm wrong but... your posts are always the douchiest hate filled pieces of shit I read on this site. You are a waste of human life. How do you have 213 posts of nothing contributed other than trying to fucking argue with everyone and flop your little dick around in everyones face? Just curious yanno?

lmao...go ahead and start praising zyzz and youll see nothing but love come out of his mouth
 
I'm just gonna throw this out there... maybe I'm wrong but... your posts are always the douchiest hate filled pieces of shit I read on this site. You are a waste of human life. How do you have 213 posts of nothing contributed other than trying to fucking argue with everyone and flop your little dick around in everyones face? Just curious yanno?

Because he's a mad cunt!
 
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