all i wanted was advice on this cycle.. low test prop with high tren a and mast prop.

[MrTee]

not sure who or why my last bloody post was deleted but thanks to whichever retard did that, definitely helping save the universe, well done mate.

all i said was does this cycle look good:

test prop 25mg ed
tren ace 75mg ed
mast prop 75mg ed

total cycle length 10 weeks.

ive heard low test cycles with tren are best because there are way less sides and still great gains. but also heard people say they like more test than tren. any thoughts thanks?

should i change the tren and mast to 50ed?..

 

[Megatron28]

Are you talking about this thread that you started and 3J responded to?

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...rop-high-dose-tren-ace-mast-ideas-please.html

 

[Cheph]

Pretty sure it wasn't a retard who deleted your thread

 

[yanks4life]

some like high test low tren, some dead even, and some low test high tren. Everyone is going to respond differently. 1st run...try the same doses and see how it goes. if you you like it, stay with it, if not, adjust one to what you think youd like

 

[3J]

Are you talking about this thread that you started and 3J responded to?

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...rop-high-dose-tren-ace-mast-ideas-please.html

looks like its still there lol..

and he never answered my question

 

[3J]

Are you talking about this thread that you started and 3J responded to?

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...rop-high-dose-tren-ace-mast-ideas-please.html

looks like its still there lol..

and he never answered my question

 

[SolomonGrundy]

id think you would be fine on 50 mg Tren A ED but if you tolerate 75 go for it, the true reasons behind Low Test high tren is not really about Sides, its about the process called De novo lipogenesis, and how when estrogen is keep low Tren can completely block this process making all dietary carbs unable to convert to fat. so your body then goes to the fat you have to burn, side effect you sweat like a pig and get ripped without the killer diet

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

id think you would be fine on 50 mg Tren A ED but if you tolerate 75 go for it, the true reasons behind Low Test high tren is not really about Sides, its about the process called De novo lipogenesis, and how when estrogen is keep low Tren can completely block this process making all dietary carbs unable to convert to fat. so your body then goes to the fat you have to burn, side effect you sweat like a pig and get ripped without the killer diet

Can you post some supporting info on this I was looking for an article about it but could find it in my library of articles.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

since it is not tested on humans we have to get our information from the meat industry, lots of data out there

i use google search "trenbolone acetate effect on de novo lipogenesis in animals"

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Can you post some supporting info on this I was looking for an article about it but could find it in my library of articles.

This is the main study on the topic:

Lipogenesis in adipose tissue from ovariectomized and intact heifer... - PubMed - NCBI

Although they found that lipogenesis was depressed without the presence of circulating estrogen, thhis was only in cattle that had an overiectomy - basically you would need to crash you estrogen on purpose to get the benefit.
On normal cattle, tren did NOT have an effect on lipogenesis either way.

You have to remember that by purposely reducing your estrogen levels you will be increasing cortisol & decreasing igf-1, which isnt a good thing for muscle gains.
Normally tren decreases cortisol & increases igf-1 - both of which increase lipolysis anyway so I see no benefit to crashing your estrogen for lipogenesis.