Am I just impatient, or is this not right?

[crazymike]

I am in week 6 of my cycle which consists of:

1-10 Test Cyp. 600mg/week
1-10 EQ 400mg/week
1-12 Tren 75mg/EOD

I have only gained about 10 pounds, no major strength increases. I mean, a little but not like people said I would from the Tren.

Am I just being too impatient in wanting to gain weight, or is there any merrit to my complaints?

I guess I am just used to the big weight increases that I get from Dbol.
I was thinking I would gain 20+ pounds and keep at least 15 with this cycle. Maybe I am just trippin for no reason.

I always read of people feeling the effects of Tren within days of its use. I am still waiting. I did read someone saying it took them like 7 weeks before they actually felt anything....hopefully that is the same with me.

What do you think?

 

[slicli]

are you running adex/ldex?

adex, from my limited experience has kept the water weight gain down.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Mike.....you're a pretty big boy, I'm not real sure 75 mg EOD of Tren is gonna be enough for you. You might want to consider doing 75 a day.......

 

[GreasyGreek]

I think StoneColdNTO is right. Given your cycle experience and size, I would try 75mgs ED. If this dosing does not make much of a difference after 1 week, then you can always go back. Good luck!

 

[crazymike]

Well I did try upping the dosage to like 100-125mg EOD and my BP went up pretty fast. I was feeling like I was having more bad side effects rather than good. So I went back down.
I only ran taht high of dosage for a couple days.

And no, I am not running A-dex, however I am running Bromo and Nolva.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Mike ..........I'd bet if you ran say 50 mg ED instead of 100 mg EOD, your bp would stay more in line.

 

[mvmaxx]

Plus the cyp/EQ will take that long to kick in. I didn't really start getting gains off my ICN/EQ till about that time.

 

[crazymike]

Well maybe starting in week 7, I will try doing ED injections of the Tren.

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

mike, It also took me around the 4th week to start noticing the Tren, nothing like the old D/ball & Anadrol......few days and you feel the strenght & pumps.

 

[TxLonghorn]

10 pounds in six weeks sounds pretty good to me...it's better than hmb or any other 'legal' supplement.

Do you feel you look better? bigger?

 

[crazymike]

^Yeah, you are right. I mean 10 pounds is pretty darn good. And I am looking 'fuller'. So I guess i am just complaining for no real reason.

Like I said i am just used to gaining real quick off of Dbol, ya know 20 pounds in the first few weeks!

I think I just have my goals set too high, and i need to come back down to reality!!LOL

 

[Mr. dB]

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Like I said i am just used to gaining real quick off of Dbol, ya know 20 pounds in the first few weeks!

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At least this way there's no debilitating back pain...

 

[crazymike]

Yeah, but i could deal with the back pain if that meant an extra 10-15 pounds!!LOL

 

[dirty-dog]

i ran the same cycle - at higher doses and had somewhat disappointing results. much like yourself, i was anticipating more. IMO, EQ is overrated. i don't react well to it and it just doesn't do much for me. *anticipating flames*

right now i'm running a lower dose test/tren cycle and i am seeing better results...go figure. diet and training are the same if not worse due to business travel.


at any rate good luck.

 

[house1]

[I'd bet if you ran say 50 mg ED instead of 100 mg EOD, your bp would stay more in line.]

made a big difference when i ran it

 

[AP2]

Mike, are you running SydGrp? Ifrit had a slow acting problem w/SG... I know I personally reacted pretty good to it, but many say it takes longer w/SG than regular ol' QV or some other type. Just curious.

 

[Ifrit]

AP2 is right. I would NEVER again run EQ less than 15 weeks and I will front load next time AND I will be using 600mgs a week instead.

 

[GreasyGreek]

I just wanted to say that if you are experiencing blood pressure problems with the higher dose, then I retract what I said before. Keep your cycle like it is, but try ED injections. Stay as healthy as possible buddy.

 

[raw lifter]

I agree, you would probably be better off with ed injections (bp wise) and of coarse level wise!....try it at 75mg's/ed and see if your bp is more consistent.

In my experience tren dramatically reduced the amount of water I was holding when I Incorporated it with my test only cycle.....actualy dropped 15lbs!

I also agree with upping the eq to 600.....just keep up with the blood work and BP as always....good luck!

 

[Hootie]

You think that's strange, when I took test cyp for 6 weeks it did nothing except give me gyno and push my libido through the roof. I only gained about 4lbs. As soon as switched to winstrol I gained more than 4lbs in the first 10 days - go figure?!?