anavar only cycle

at least i am smart enough to give advice which would be best suited for specific person and his specific need. not like you who tells every-fucking-body to take test without even taking pain to ask his pic or care much about body fat percentage.. what if that guy is 15% body fat and take test and become bloated mess thanx to you ? dont you know many american guys are fat fuck and lie a lot about there status,,,????every fucking body is 6"2 tall and 220 pounds here but when i see the pics it makes me laugh....they look fat fuck....test give them fat and water and they think they have become a bodybuilder lol..
its so easy to tell everybody "hey take test 500 mg as your first cycle" instead of giving accurate advice.

ok let suppose a guy gain 20 pounds within 3 months of using test.....fuck me..no fucking body gain 20 pounds of lean muscle in 3 months.....half of it is fat+water....suppose he got great gense and gain 12 pound solid lean muscle instead of 10 pounds of lean muscle withb total 20 pounds gain. so what ?? he will lose his 4-5 pounds of lean muscle within next 3 months even if he tries his best with post cycle therapy (pct) and other drugs.

so total net gain in 6 months = 8-10 pounds of lean muscle..if he is lucky...and forget about the pain he has to take for the post cycle therapy (pct) and anti-e and some fat in his stomach thanx to estrogen and mild depression becuase of his long 3 months cycle. long cycle are for experience users buddy. short busrt cycles are better for newbies.

now i can gain 5 ponuds of lean .....lean lean...not fat+water+lean..but lean muscle tissue within 6 weeks days of 50 mg winni per day... ..and guess what..no need for anti-e and serious post cycle therapy (pct). just plain old nolva will recover the test with this short burst cycle (6 weeks )of winni or anavar....and in that 6 months i would gain total 10 solid pounds because of two short burst cycle ..without geting into post cycle low energy with your "12 week test 500 mg" test cycle....the muscle gains would be lot easily maintained and i would look 10 times better..not some bloated mess of fat and water which he dont want to be...he just want to be strong..and halo/anavar makes ppl strong...!! not just the test...without giving him excess weight.

do you think ben johnsone was stupid to take winni (we can comapare winstrol to anavar loosely with anavar not giving joint pain) ?? huh ?? if it was that weak ??


winni /anavar is good anabolic and if you dont respond phenamnal to 50mg per day after training 8 years heavy and hard then you can never be a good (forget about great) bodybuilder/powerlifter...you can be a local hero though ..anybody can be local hero with test/deca/dbol cycle....but if a hardcore geneticaly gifted athelite start taking roid..he would respond phenomenal to low dosed weak drugs....that guy is a champ...very strong champ...thats why i said go with low dose so that you can have some stable srenght gained before jumping to stronger compound....its very important for him not to burn out himself ..because he needs to go far..he is young,..stronge,..he dont need high dosed like you.. at least not for next 6-8 months.

and the bottemline is he needs no weight gain..get it in your head...i am saying 10th time...and if you keep saying he needs to take yada yada to gain weight then you are too dumb to argue with me.


hope that helps.
 
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to pagal you said

"....test give them fat and water and they think they have become a bodybuilder lol.. "

test does not give you fat . diet and to a lesser extent estrogen that aromatizes from test gives you fat and in this day and age of readily available adex , aromaisn , letro if you dont control estrogen its your on fault.if you dont control diet the you WILL get fat on var.
 
but sir when i used test i was having trouble with my fat on stomach....i was eating clean ....i dont generally hold fat there.. i dont hold not water there too

and when i used letro my gains totally stopped .but within 2 days my stomach started to show packs....i think it was water and estrogen induced fat mix.. and i got fake organon on my last cycle..,..i was happy with using 20 mg winni a day...then i read ur post about how test works great ..i tried it 10 weeks of 500 mg test..but i got fake organon test...it was surely just prop in it as i respong very well to low dose but did"nt gained a single pound...just little water .i feeled so bad that i have to rely on winni....i got back on winni and uped the dosage to 40 mg a day and withing 3 days i my body started changing..hell withing 3 hours of drinking 10 eggs with 20 mg winni my body show great pump...but 500 mg test does nothing except giving me some water and some pump after 2 days of pinning then it diminish..i waited till 5-6 weeks ..my body did'nt change a bit..wtf....human grade also got faked ?
 
on letro (just .2 mg a day ) ..i feeled like physcho on it..hostile towards every male....specially while driving...no sex drive at all on letro...insomaniac. too..joint pain....thats when i sweared i wont use anti-e again...nolva works just fine for me..letro just fuck me up..i think i am super sensetive to chemicals...i respond well but side effect are also pronounce. wtf
 
but sir when i used test i was having trouble with my fat on stomach....i was eating clean ....i dont generally hold fat there.. i dont hold not water there too

and when i used letro my gains totally stopped .but within 2 days my stomach started to show packs....i think it was water and estrogen induced fat mix.. and i got fake organon on my last cycle..,..i was happy with using 20 mg winni a day...then i read ur post about how test works great ..i tried it 10 weeks of 500 mg test..but i got fake organon test...it was surely just prop in it as i respong very well to low dose but did"nt gained a single pound...just little water .i feeled so bad that i have to rely on winni....i got back on winni and uped the dosage to 40 mg a day and withing 3 days i my body started changing..hell withing 3 hours of drinking 10 eggs with 20 mg winni my body show great pump...but 500 mg test does nothing except giving me some water and some pump after 2 days of pinning then it diminish..i waited till 5-6 weeks ..my body did'nt change a bit..wtf....human grade also got faked ?

wow 3 hours and you have a pump. fUUUUUUUUUUUUKJKKKKKKKKI . you guys make me insane , who gives a flying fuck if you get a pump , a pump doesnt mean lean mass . the fact that you posted this mess boggles my mind . fake test doesnt work for you so test is bad , winnie gives you a pump in 3 hours so orals are best . what in gods name are you thinking.



please stop steroids , you are not mentally or emotionally ready for them.
 
i have a "friend" that can get 200 @20 mg. Anavar (var) tabs.What would be the best way for him to take them?Also would he need a pct?
 
So are you a woman ? I didn't get that in your post. Why are you using Steroids at 19 your natural test levels are higher than the anvar will make them. Why not learn how to eat and wait on the steroids for another 5 years. You don't want to be a midget do you.

not a women nor a midget thanks for keeping your post on subject its greatly appreciated
 
i have a "friend" that can get 200 @20 mg. Anavar (var) tabs.What would be the best way for him to take them?Also would he need a pct?

honestly ive only seen 10 mg and 50 mg but im not sure they might be legit but take them 2 or three times a day dont exceed 80 mgs totall on the day u could take one dose at 8am one dose at 4pm another around midnight would be best considering it has an 8 hour half life but its really up to that person. pct is optimal. ive seen people do it and seen them not do it and b fine it really depends on the person but to be safe id say take a pct
 
pagal....bro just give up already....admit that you are wrong and learn something from all this very very good info that dawg and oak have laid out

ive been watching this thread grow for days and you keep arguing a point that is rediculous...your stay here at ology will be much better if you can open your mind to new and factual ideas...

frankly there isnt anything left to say on this thread that hasnt already been said...
 
honestly i dont c a problem with running the var. im likeing my results from it. ive gained around 6 pounds and im 4 weeks in. put around 50 pounds on core lifts and love the pumps. havnt had any bad sides. no fat loss but wasnt expecting any. blood pressure was checked yesterday and it was a little high but nothing horrible 132/79. not trying to say its some great cycle thats going to give you magical gains and grow ronnie colman muscles but depending on what your wanting it could be a good cycle. i know some of you are hell bent on all cycles having test which is great i know test is great and some day ill give it a go but im just not ready for it i dont think. thanks for all the great info. ill keep updates on progress
 
pagal....bro just give up already....admit that you are wrong and learn something from all this very very good info that dawg and oak have laid out

ive been watching this thread grow for days and you keep arguing a point that is rediculous...your stay here at ology will be much better if you can open your mind to new and factual ideas...

frankly there isnt anything left to say on this thread that hasnt already been said...

hmm okei boss.. peace...:smokepoke
 
actually 19 is not to young anavar is used on kids that need to grow and thats what were tryna do with it anyway so i dont see the problem with him using it
 
actually 19 is not to young anavar is used on kids that need to grow and thats what were tryna do with it anyway so i dont see the problem with him using it

show me where they are using this on kids. kids with stunted growth are usually treated with hgh , i know one personnaly.
 
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