Androlean 1 week thoughts

Ive used just about every supplement Primordial Performance makes, except for most of the hormonal stuff.
Im waiting to start my Androlean, but its in the same order with Andromass, so I have to wait untill that releases till I recieve it. I actually contacted customer service to split the order and send me whats available now.
As far as posting everywhere- Well I post in a lot of places, but thats my job..
Telling people how to use the products we havent used yet- We had to study everything about the series before the product was announced, to ready our selves for questions.
I miss Trauma also, but the new guys as well as the old guys rock and Stickman is still around but when he has more time to devote to the boards, he'll be back.

Other than that man, I hope you dont stay pissed off at us too long, but if you never come back, well have a good one and take it light.
 
Sanson said:
Doctors tell people how to use drugs all the time without ever having taken them....just saying...
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You cant compare drugs, which are taken to treat an illness, to supplements. Besides drugs are FDA approved, which undergoes thorough testing.
 
Docs are prescribing hgh and test at anti-aging clinics based on someone getting bloodwork, which is highly subjective to interpretation, as well as a subjective questionnaire of symptoms. You say the right things and test anywhere but extremely high on your T levels, you get drugs. Having said that if the products are available then hell yeah the reps should take them, but considering they just came out and andromass is still MIA, then I can cut them some slack.
 
Sanson said:
Doctors tell people how to use drugs all the time without ever having taken them....just saying...
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In my experience, a doc likes to throw whatever drug is in his arsenal at a problem without trying to solve it another way first. I think that's a good point to make, that you can know exactly how to use something and how it works without having ever tried it.

Everyone suggests testosterone as a first cycle, even the guys who have never used it or didn't follow that advice.
 
Bottom line is yes, other reps, including me will be using the Androseries. Its silly though if anyone is trying to make it out that some of the reps are not using the products for some reason.
 
right now, still no thermo, still no appetite (but i know the ephedrine is helping there), and no strength gain at all

i will say its had a cumulative hardening effect, nothing crazy, but similar to hdrol, i feel tight and mildly pumped all day, easily the best aspect so far....the pumps in the gym are pretty on par with the hdrol too

i wont add hard because i never really planned to use this stuff, eca is more than enuff to cut...im kinda surprised the stuff has been good

from these results, ill venture to say their claims with regards to possible GAINS on mass could be attainable in 6weeks, but i dont think itll FEEL like test.....as in wanting to bone your ugly neighboor as you watch her go to her car in the morning
 
djm6464 said:
right now, still no thermo, still no appetite (but i know the ephedrine is helping there), and no strength gain at all

i will say its had a cumulative hardening effect, nothing crazy, but similar to hdrol, i feel tight and mildly pumped all day, easily the best aspect so far....the pumps in the gym are pretty on par with the hdrol too

i wont add hard because i never really planned to use this stuff, eca is more than enuff to cut...im kinda surprised the stuff has been good

from these results, ill venture to say their claims with regards to possible GAINS on mass could be attainable in 6weeks, but i dont think itll FEEL like test.....as in wanting to bone your ugly neighboor as you watch her go to her car in the morning
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lol nice. Think the 91mg/week of test is an accurate number? Or no?
 
djm6464 said:
alright im a week in, grabbed androhard, and saw lean very cheap on a certin site, so i threw it in, just to try, after i was reading logs of intense thermo action

ENERGY 9/10 id give 10, but its early, im carb cycling, and being a vegetarian the low days drain the crap out of me, even on EC i was sluggish, the lean by the 3rd workout was making an impact on my workouts, yesterday my shoulder workout i noticed a slight strength increase
ENDURANCE 9/10 same goes for most anabolics, by this past weekend it was very evident, muscular endurance i didnt have oreviously even with EC and animal rage prewo
THERMO 6/10 iv noticed none of this, odd seeing its what everyone raves about, i 'might' sweat a bit more at the gym, but who doesnt sweat at the gym, i added evis one day, and things were cooking
'PIGGYBACKING' 8/10 this does work, day 1 i was dehydrated to the point of back pumps/pain, i split my caff pills in half on day 2, and took a bit less of my prewo, increased water to alleviate this.....i took a cialis yesterday seeing my girl had been away 2weeks, and i wanted to tear into her, well iv used them here n there, n i dosed it with the lean for fun....it affected the SIDES of cialis alot, i was brutally lethargic and congested by the evening (i got my business out of the way of course)
APPETITE 12/10 for me the biggest effect of the lean, i could eat wit EC or NYC in previous weeks, but now its a chore, and i forget if im working too much....iv dropped to 2500cals ed, very low for me, and since lean was added, its been a ton easier eating 6-7 eggs n then waiting for my next meal


all in all its been pretty decent, im only a week in, but despite the lack of calories my body always feels hard n pumped now, however i find it has had no effect on doms, im still sore a day or two later

im glad i grabbed the hard, seeing its the one i figured would be good if any, and now im seriously thinking about mass seeing iv used test and could compare

***i live in canada, couldnt get any rep discounts or anything, i used my own money and bought form an online retailor who actually shipped here, and who was cheaper, so im expecting to see stuff here seeing my wallet is lighter
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cool didnt know this. I am also.
good to know im not the only one out there thats into bbing and not eating dead flesh :-)
 
juced_porkchop said:
cool didnt know this. I am also.
good to know im not the only one out there thats into bbing and not eating dead flesh :-)
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nice, i know you are a big guy, so we can agree, protein powder and creatine are huge for us, it can be done without, but i wouldnt chance it

without the EC, i would be salivating on any sort of caloric restriction

ill assume you are similar in that, caloric manipulation is another thing when cutting, vs keto or whatever other guys do

only flesh i eat is between my girls legs, not exactly dead tho
 
djm6464 said:
if it does ship the 2nd, if not i got my pins ready

i got epi and tenazone here to to beef it up if need be
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Same for me, I'm going to Vegas for a bachelor party and I get back May 9th. I'm giving myself a week to detox, if I don't have my andromass I'm running my original cycle. If I get some am in the mail, then I'm running that, no more waiting.
 
I hear you guys, can only put of planned cycles for so long, but there is no indication these will not be shipping soon.
 
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