Any other 40 year olds in same boat?

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Scrappy1

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At 40 I am able to Maintain my strength with only half the lifts I did in my 20's. If I miss a couple weeks, I come back just as strong. I am 185 with a strict bench of 445, squat of 550. Ya I know I hate working legs. I
don't have a six pack, more of a small keg. But I am happy. I am old school Deca and e has always been choice but my joints are killing me the past year. Am I retaining too much fluid? too much calcium build up?
I have paid two doctors for visits and received two separate answers. At this rate I will be broke. Am I at the age to gear it down? I am only doing 100mg deca a week. My wife does more :-) Just interested in any
similar problems..... Can not find if deca causes that much fluid retention. Is there something out there to remedy this
 
You weigh 185 pounds and bench 445 ! ??
And your doing that at the age of 40 with "half" the lifts you did in the 20's. damn, no wonder your joints hurt!! 20 years of lifting and squatting multiple times heavier than your body weight..
Have you tried training Rich Piana style? Once he hit 40 he stopped lifting for pride and now does light weight hi reps and maintains his 22 inch arms and 275 lbs and huge shoulders without heavy lifts and joint pain
 
Ya a lot is pride I haven't maxed out in a while, I do reps of 8-10 But at 375 for 10 reps the pain is there But it doesn't feel muscular That's why I was wondering if deca caused too much water retention at a certain age and the body just cant process it any more. Also I do not have Piana's genetics I have more of a "condensed" frame
 
Are you saying that deca use has resulted in too much water to the joints and is causing pain?
You could try something to dry you out like mast or even Adex,, but I'd think that would make it worse.
Probable just the onset of early arthritis and docs may prescribe you a daily pill like Celebrex to deal with the pain (as long as the joints themselves are still healthy.... It's just about pain management then)..
I'd change my workout routine to lighter weights, take a boat load of glucosamine and condroint and a daily aleve
 
You r but 200% of bodyweight is a norm for even non substance users in bench press At least in my part of the country it is.
 
I'm pretty close to your size and age I think at 43 years with a compact 5'5 frame at 195lbs. About 5 years ago due to a shoulder blowout/bicep tear I was forced to make the decision to change my training style from a powerlifting type of training to higher reps stricter form. It's was tough on the ego for sure but my doc said if I keep this up I was going to be be a cripple sooner rather than later. On top of the injury I had pain in both knees and elbows and my back would seize up on me on a weekly basis. Like roush said it may be arthritis I would defiantly have a doc check you out at least so you you can rule out the possability. Father Time can be a real asshole in this game but with some preventative maintenance and few adjustments you can lift for years to come. Btw deca is a great asset in your situation and your dose is hardly excessive. A little estrogen in your system isn't a bad thing
 
Drop the ego at the gym, you can make make gains using a lot less weight, concentrate on form and increase your reps, do drop sets and use pre-exhaust methods, it will be a lot easier on your joints.
 
I thought it was if you can bench 150% of your body weight and squat 200% of your weight you were considered an advanced athlete, thats what i've always heard but then again i live in the states so thats probably true here
 
Similar story for me, I am now 46 years old now, and the age of 41 I was at peak strength, benching 395lbs at 190lbs body weight, raw (no bench shirt, those are for pussies). But the following year all the heavy lifting caught up with me, and I ruptured 2 discs in my neck (C5-C6 and C6-C7), had spinal fusion surgery, now I am not so strong anymore on the bench! But I have learned to lift differently and more reps and lighter weights. Same thing happened to Ronnie Coleman, who also had neck surgery. Now I dont bench above 315lbs anymore, but can still get 3 solid reps of that!

Scrappy, just curious, your 445lbs bench, is that raw or shirted?
 
Moppy1 said:
Similar story for me, I am now 46 years old now, and the age of 41 I was at peak strength, benching 395lbs at 190lbs body weight, raw (no bench shirt, those are for pussies). But the following year all the heavy lifting caught up with me, and I ruptured 2 discs in my neck (C5-C6 and C6-C7), had spinal fusion surgery, now I am not so strong anymore on the bench! But I have learned to lift differently and more reps and lighter weights. Same thing happened to Ronnie Coleman, who also had neck surgery. Now I dont bench above 315lbs anymore, but can still get 3 solid reps of that!

Scrappy, just curious, your 445lbs bench, is that raw or shirted?
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Bench shirts are not for pussies. Bench shirts are for Powerlifters that compete in Equipped divisions. To be as nice as possible, please keep opinions like that to yourself.
 
Scrappy: what exactly are you taking? Just Deca or anything else? Have you run blood work to check your hormone levels (testosterone and Estradiol for example)?

Deca "lubricates" your joints. They should feel better with the deca, not worse. But we need to know what else you are taking and see blood work.

Are you familiar with Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online
 
Moppy that was done in old fashioned ways. Not even gloves Familiar with the hobbit movie. I am built like a dwarf not the elf :-) Meaning the barrel chest shorter arms Lots of thickness Never bodybuilding material just power But slow as malasses, so could never be a fullback
 
Unfortunately due to being labled "Diabetic" genetic and a snakebite, my blood is done every 3 moonths. T levels are low normal 400 Im not looking to be the next Mr Olympia or Anthony Clark (old school) I have found a way to stay off insulin I hate to loose this miracle Even if I have to scream every time I lift I would prefer that over insulin. But I also don't want to do 25 repetitions
 
Im not being politically correct but what I have read is 30 days training 100%, most regulars and non professional athletes between 17-22 hit 175% within 2 years of training. 200% is normal with the right training and diet. 250% genetics start playing a roll
 
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