Anyone else get horrible PIP from OP?

[mrricco2012]

So I'm pinning EOD 150mg Test Prop, and 125mg of NPP 2.75CC. I pin in the glutes, and in the quads. Im on my 8th shot today, and I have to say every shot I've done I've experienced horrible PIP. I've done Prop EOD for a few weeks where I did 125mg, from Pinnicle, but that pip was baby stuff compared to this. Usually my PIP for each area last between 2-3 days. So pinning both ass cheeks a few days apart makes me unable to sit down without yelping. With pinning my quads I can barely raise my leg too put on socks, or elevate it to relieve pressure.

I'm microwaving water for 30 seconds, and letting the vials sit in there for 2 minutes. Doing proper drawing, wiping down area with alcohol wipe. Pinning with right needles, and warming that area throughout the day with heating pad. Usually pin a few hrs before working, if I inject on workout days. I've tried the Z method, but seems to make it worse since its hard to hold the skin and draw back for a bubble while keeping the syringe stable.

Anyone else have horrible PIP from OP. The pips so bad, if it prolongs the whole cycle I'm never going to run short esters again.

 

[Ocean Rhino]

Can't speak to props, but the Tren E and Test E have been close to zero PIP.

 

[smittiot]

Can't speak to props, but the Tren E and Test E have been close to zero PIP.

Maybe for you. For me it has been an irritation. For some others, it has been worse. This is regarding the testE.
My irritation comes below the injection site and about 4 or 5 days post inject. When I last reported on having no issues 3 days post, that has changed. Even used a slin pin. So, I would assume it is not the injection technique, but rather my sensitivity to product. Maybe that will change after a few more pins?

 

[eynow]

Do not mention any other labs name or this thread will be closed too, at least that's the reason I was told.

 

[eynow]

Maybe for you. For me it has been an irritation. For some others, it has been worse. This is regarding the testE.
My irritation comes below the injection site and about 4 or 5 days post inject. When I last reported on having no issues 3 days post, that has changed. Even used a slin pin. So, I would assume it is not the injection technique, but rather my sensitivity to product. Maybe that will change after a few more pins?

So the slin pin didn't make a difference?

 

[mrricco2012]

Im taking NPP and its suppose to lubricate my joints, damn my knee acts like it has no lubrication when I inject the area.

 

[smittiot]

So the slin pin didn't make a difference?

Initially, I did not get the burning. Think it allowed me to inject the thin product super slow. But today, last tuesdays inject feels like I got elbowed and charley horse.
Not a deal breaker, but not normal either.

 

[smittiot]

Im taking NPP and its suppose to lubricate my joints, damn my knee acts like it has no lubrication when I inject the area.

I hope what you mean is that when you inject that quad and you are not injecting npp into knee joint.

 

[mrricco2012]

I hope what you mean is that when you inject that quad and you are not injecting npp into knee joint.

ohh hell no, I inject in the right place but my knee usually hurts and is part of the PIP.

 

[eynow]

Initially, I did not get the burning. Think it allowed me to inject the thin product super slow. But today, last tuesdays inject feels like I got elbowed and charley horse.
Not a deal breaker, but not normal either.

My right arm's swelling went down completely but still a tad bit red. I'm just now able to move my left arms without any extreme pain but still feeling the pip.

 

[smittiot]

So far mine has not been nearly as bad as yours, eyenow.
Maybe try slin for delts?

 

[eynow]

So far mine has not been nearly as bad as yours, eyenow.
Maybe try slin for delts?

Right arm didn't hurt at all. Just got red and swollen. Left arm was the 1st time I pinned before bed. Which seemed to make it worse.

 

[diesel1980]

Going though the same thing with test E. However my second pin in left quad felt much better than the first one in my right quad. only hurt for a day and was fine after that. pinned Thurs and by sat evening there was little to no pain. Just pinned right quad again. I hope it reacts better this time and is able to absorb the gear better, because that shizz hurt like hell for a week.

Great results so far. dbol 30mg spread out ED and 500 mg a week Test E. At least the gear is solid and I'm not dealing with this pain for nothing.

 

[waceyf]

I was getting it in the first few weeks but now nothing. I think my body was getting used to the EO they use. Maybe some of you with recurring issues just aren't accepting it? Maybe your bodies are rejecting the EO. Idk, I just can't think of what else it would be. I'm not getting any pip from the Test 400 anymore which send odd in itself since most gear dosed that high has pip regularly.

 

[smittiot]

I was getting it in the first few weeks but now nothing. I think my body was getting used to the EO they use. Maybe some of you with recurring issues just aren't accepting it? Maybe your bodies are rejecting the EO. Idk, I just can't think of what else it would be. I'm not getting any pip from the Test 400 anymore which send odd in itself since most gear dosed that high has pip regularly.

That is encouraging.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Prop is notorious for injection pain even from Human grade. It's due to the amount emulsifier needed keep the ph balanced to keep the compound from crystalizing. I recommend adding a cc of B15 to it in the same syringe and p in it together. You shouldn't ever have the pain from injection again.

 

[waceyf]

Prop is notorious for injection pain even from Human grade. It's due to the amount emulsifier needed keep the ph balanced to keep the compound from crystalizing. I recommend adding a cc of B15 to it in the same syringe and p in it together. You shouldn't ever have the pain from injection again.

That's actually a great idea.. You'll be getting something out if it too, unlike using grape seed or cottonseed oils. Sometimes I draw up my MTII in the same syringe and that shit burns like hell but being as it's mixed in BW I think it may help in absorption. Idk, all just theories, but I think using Vit B is a good idea.

 

[mrricco2012]

Had a huge problem today at the gym. Chest/Tri day and I never inject upper body and so I did gym today and completely failed at every heavy lift. I had to go down 30-40 lbs on each lift. Im in the beginning of my 3rd week with OP, IDK what is up.

 

[tigre81]

I bought the same cycle prop and npp. The pip was debilitating. I had to switch the gear because I couldn't perform at work. I work construction and was limping around for a few days.

Also I felt the glute injection of 150mg of prop for roughly 11 days. It didn't hurt for all of those days but I knew it was there if I pressed it.

 

[waceyf]

Had a huge problem today at the gym. Chest/Tri day and I never inject upper body and so I did gym today and completely failed at every heavy lift. I had to go down 30-40 lbs on each lift. Im in the beginning of my 3rd week with OP, IDK what is up.

Everyone has bad days. Every day can't be good.