Thinking of doing just a cheap 8 wk cycle. It has been a little while nearly 2 years since I have done a strong cycle. Can't get my hands on too much these days since a majority of everyone I used to know is out of business. I have never tried these 2 together for just a bulking cycle. I have 2 bottles of Test E 250 and of course just going to make up some fina. Will probably just run 2.5 cc s of test a week 625mg and 75mg of tren every 2 days both for 8wks. Just want to see who has used them together like this and what kind of results.