are there any legal products to help w/quality sleep?

[byp0]

zma

 

[Mudge]

Ambien works very well for a lot of people but its pricey and prescription not OTC.

 

[BossSauce]

what is zma?

 

[thorsky]

Quick blurb from bodybuliding.com:
1. What is it and where does it come from?

ZMA is a scientifically designed anabolic mineral formula. It contains Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate plus Magnesium Aspartate and vitamin B-6, and is an all-natural product that has been clinically proven to significantly increase anabolic hormone levels and muscle strength in trained athletes.

Another benefit is better sleep. ZMA should be taken 30 - 60 minutes before bed. Most people notice they can fall asleep deeper and then sleep more deeply. Don't be surprised if you start having very vivid dreams while taking ZMA!

 

[Ifrit]

Melatonin is great and it has been shown to lower blood pressure also. I'm not sure if you build a tolerance but I feel as though I do so I at least try to go two nights without any. I wish I could sleep like I did when I was a teen. Many people say P-GH helps with sleep although I've never tried it.

 

[BossSauce]

is zma legal?

 

[jarbulldog]

i have the same problem but get night sweats ral bad also

 

[BossSauce]

i get the night sweats bad too. is it the gear or what? anyone know if zma is legal?

 

[thorsky]

ZMA is legal. Hit google up and you'll get a shitload of places to buy it. Maybe someone on here has a good (cheap) place?

Night sweats?!? Lol...I wake up in a puddle sometimes. New sheets every night now. It's the gear for me. 1g Test Prop was fine, but as soon as I added the 1g of tren, holy fucking shit batman! That's the only thing I look forward too when I drop the tren. Nice comfy sleep. On the other hand, the dreams I've been having lately are friggin trippy as hell. Kinda cool.

 

[BossSauce]

so i can post w/o getting un trouble asking for zma?

and how about tren? is it really that bad w/the dreams? i got my conversion kit today and should have my fina by tomorrow. cant fucking wait, bad dreams or not!!!

 

[thorsky]

Notice I didn't say bad dreams.... Just vivid and strange for me. I have heard of some having bad dreams, but then I've also heard of some getting rage and other stuff on tren. I think it is totally an individual thing. I love tren and it will probably be in every one of my cycles from now on. Except when I run deca of course. I don't like to lactate!

 

[BossSauce]

dude, i can't wait! i feel like a kid waiting for christmas. from everything i've read, this sounds like the absolute shit!

 

[thorsky]

I was exactly the same. In fact I started a week early because I had it sitting there looking at me. Just keep an open mind and realize it may disagree with you, as any hormone can. I will say this: When I first started, I felt a bit shitty and sweated all day. After a week or two my body seems to adjust (same happens when I start test) then I feel fine. Same shit happens when I come off. ED injects definitely help me with keeping sides to a minimum.

Back to the sleep thing. If I want Ambien, should I just go in and tell my doc I been reading about it and want it, or should I make up a good story about stress and not sleeping well? I want to give it a try.

 

[Bobwhite]

Hey guys, please don't forget that this may be sleep apnea which can be deadly. One of the risk factors is a collar size larger than 17" (I would guess that many here fall into that category). Melatonin, etc., is OK, but drugs which depress your system may be dangerous. I know this because I was diagnosed with sleep apnea.

Just my .02

p.s. to the guy who said not to tell your doctor you're on gear because he will put it into your medical file--you're wrong for the reasons I explained to you in the other thread.

Satient2003

 

[thorsky]

You didn't explain it to me in any other thread, and you should check around a bit with the vets. Feel free to tell your doc whatever you want.

 

[thorsky]

Satient2003, had to check and see what else you had posted on this. Don't bother responding to my post with all your high and mighty "I'm a lawyer" shit. I read it in your other posts and we can agree to disagree.

 

[@dam]

so i take it you guys are buddies?

 

[thorsky]

Lol...bestest pals!

 

[@dam]

cute

 

[BossSauce]

i'm just worried about shit going into medical files that can be seen by potential employers, or having my insurance cancelled. i definitely cant afford to be cancelled. (i have my son on my insurance)