Aromatase inhibitor(AI) usage

[snigg]

I would like to get everyone's thoughts regarding the use of AI's in relation to a moderate test cycle.

I've noticed quite a few people spout the same advice over and over in the "help with my first cycle" threads that using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is mandatory and should be run from the beginning of the cycle. I wont debate that an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is necessary to have on hand before starting a cycle, however i'd like to hear opinions on why some people feel it is mandatory to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a basic 500mg/week test cycle. Why do some of you suggest this?

Personally I feel that it's good to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand and begin using if you notice sides that your estrogen is too high. I dont think it is necessary to add another substance to your body unless necessary.

Hopefully we can have a good discussion and get some opinions.

 

[DADAWG]

i vote as needed . but if you have blood pressure issues allready i would probablly use a low dose from the start.

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

I am taking test and dropped the arimidex.....I feel like I am doing even better without it. The aromatase inhibitor was unnecessary for me. I am not seeing signs of gyno or estrogen related problems.
I always thought you should keep nolvadex on hand in case of gyno because it blocks the androgen receptors in the breast tissue directly solving the problem right away.
I read that reducing your estrogen levels too much is not good and could inhibit muscle and strength gains.
Snigg ask the Thai steroidology poster girl what she thinks about all this........

 

[Polynikes666]

As needed, unless you are an advanced AAS user, and already know how your body responds.

Poly

 

[Mr P]

don't need it so far..

 

[Epic Ed]

Definitely as needed. Crashing your E2 because you're taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unnecessarily is just as bad as having E2 levels that are too high. Ask me how I know. But always have it on hand before starting a cycle because you just don't know how your body is going to react to an increase volume of test.

 

[webmouth247]

ok, i have a question...

first off i havent cycled yet but planning on doing a 500mg/week test e run for 12 weeks. the things ive read so far by lurking has made me make this decision. Ive been too kinda lost on when to start using an aromatase inhibator.

So as being new to AAS.... how do you know when its its the right time for you? and how do you learn to adjust with out harming your gains or yourself by letting gyno kick in?

 

[Epic Ed]

Based on your symptoms. Know what side effects to look for and adjust accordingly. The most likely first signs of rising estrogen are bloat/water retention. High blood pressure might follow, and then there are gyno indications -- puffy nipples, sore nipples, or lumps. A new found love of chick flicks, a desire to take long walks on the beach, and getting pissed at your girlfriend because she just doesn't understand you are also possibilities.

 

[webmouth247]

Based on your symptoms. Know what side effects to look for and adjust accordingly. The most likely first signs of rising estrogen are bloat/water retention. High blood pressure might follow, and then there are gyno indications -- puffy nipples, sore nipples, or lumps. A new found love of chick flicks, a desire to take long walks on the beach, and getting pissed at your girlfriend because she just doesn't understand you are also possibilities.

so this is what i really should be worried about?

so if i have the desire to go watch "10 Things I Hate About You"... go jump on some aromasin?

haha...

maybe i should use the search function alil more and find out more about syptoms.

 

[freakinhuge]

I like to go with exemestane during cycle

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

Ok at what point do you draw the line and say, "I need to take an aromatase inhibitor?

Is it water retention? If so how much?

Is it loss of sex drive? What about adding proviron or cabergoline instead?

Is it not true that high estrogen levels are needed to make significant muscle and strength gains? I have read that several times from different sources.

I mean muscle and strength gains are the whole point of taking steroids right?

Is it not also true that your body aromatizing testosterone into estrogen is an effort on your body's part to restore a natural balance? That is to say a normal test to estrogen ratio?

 

[Natehayes]

Definitely as needed. Crashing your E2 because you're taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unnecessarily is just as bad as having E2 levels that are too high. Ask me how I know. But always have it on hand before starting a cycle because you just don't know how your body is going to react to an increase volume of test.

How would you know if you crashed your E2?

I suspect I may have done just that recently with Aromasin.

 

[DFW]

I always keep aromasin (Liquid Stane) on hand just so I can sleep at night but have been lucky and haven't had to take any.

 

[barrysanders]

As needed is my motto!

 

[cyto33]

How would you know if you crashed your E2?

I suspect I may have done just that recently with Aromasin.

when i crashed mine the gains stopped and i was lazy tired and weak. the main dead give away was my dick didn't work.

take as needed if at all.
my last 3 cycles i dont take it but i have it just in case

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

What about my questions any feedback?

 

[cyto33]

Ok at what point do you draw the line and say, "I need to take an aromatase inhibitor?

Is it water retention? If so how much?
this dependant on the blood pressure if it becomes high then yes take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to bring back into check then look at the diet so you can get off the AI


Is it loss of sex drive? What about adding proviron or cabergoline instead?never had this happen with it to high so no comment

Is it not true that high estrogen levels are needed to make significant muscle and strength gains? I have read that several times from different sources.this is very true but well balanced llevels are more important to control sides

I mean muscle and strength gains are the whole point of taking steroids right?
yes

Is it not also true that your body aromatizing testosterone into estrogen is an effort on your body's part to restore a natural balance? That is to say a normal test to estrogen ratio?

100% correct

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

Thanx cyto 33

 

[Natehayes]

when i crashed mine the gains stopped and i was lazy tired and weak. the main dead give away was my dick didn't work.

take as needed if at all.
my last 3 cycles i dont take it but i have it just in case

Bingo. Sounds just like what just happened to me. And since my wife is my avatar if my dick aint working something is really wrong!

I was taking pretty low dose aromasin (6.25mg eod) but I guess it was still too much for me.

How long till E2 bounces back?

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

Your wife has a nice body if you don't mind me saying.