[b]igf-1 lr3[/b]

[ColSanders]

Igf-1 lr3

IGF sound like a very interesting compound and I have done a lot of research on it lately. I thought I was getting close to figuring out a cycle but then I read that post about doing 11mcg a day??? I was thinking about running 50mcg and pinning PWO on the body part that was worked for 4 weeks, wasn't sure if I should pin on off days. Also is Bac Water the best to use to reconstitute it? Any suggestions? please help...
Thank you in advanced

 

[tballz]

I usually pin 50-80mcg. I've done cycles where I pin every day or just workout days. I haven't noticed a big difference so you might as well save it for just work out days.

RUI gives NaCl water which works just fine.

 

[lartinos]

I like to use it post cycle the most. Probably the best thing I have taken with HCG to help me come off.

 

[ColSanders]

I usually pin 50-80mcg. I've done cycles where I pin every day or just workout days. I haven't noticed a big difference so you might as well save it for just work out days.

RUI gives NaCl water which works just fine.

sorry im still working on some of the abbreviations RUI? NaCl?
Thanks for the input!

 

[ColSanders]

sorry im still working on some of the abbreviations RUI? NaCl?
Thanks for the input!

sorry... feel like a noob now... went to RUI... thanks lol

 

[ChrisWho?]

Try SRC also, their a sponsor too. I started running there IGF-Lr3 at 50mcgs a day mon thru fri doing bilaterall injections. I've read that article saying that 11mcg is all you need but this is a research chem with very little info or accurate protocals. Just run what you find is best for you. I've found that 40-60mcgs a day is the norm. I like it so far but feel it's too early to know for sure. I can feel little differences here and there though.

 

[ChrisWho?]

You want to mix and draw it out with acetic acid and then dilute to whatever ml you want per injection with BAC water.

 

[UserAt204]

You guys are going by a bunch of old info. With lr3 you need .6% acetic acid to reconstitute. AA provides the proper ph. It will degrade very fast in bac water.

40 to 60mcg pre workout. I also use first thing in the morning. Don't expect for it to do what all the studies claim because it won't. Igf is better used to shuttle nutrients.

 

[OMEGA]

pct for sure

therapeutic doses start in 20mcg level....seldom more then 40 a day is needed

 

[UserAt204]

^^^ exactly^^^

 

[ColSanders]

You guys are going by a bunch of old info. With lr3 you need .6% acetic acid to reconstitute. AA provides the proper ph. It will degrade very fast in bac water.

40 to 60mcg pre workout. I also use first thing in the morning. Don't expect for it to do what all the studies claim because it won't. Igf is better used to shuttle nutrients.

Thanks User! so let me see if I got this straight... reconstitute with AA and dilute with AA to desired amount? is this right? thanks for the input!

 

[UserAt204]

I add 2ml .6% AA to 1mg igf. Don't spray the powder when reconstituting. Let it drip down the side of the vial and don't shake it. Then if you want, once you draw out the desired dose, draw 1cc of bac water out of that bottle before injecting. I don't do that but many like it because the AA can sting a bit.

 

[ColSanders]

Thanks User! U DA MAN!!! lol

 

[Flexy Flexerson]

You guys are going by a bunch of old info. With lr3 you need .6% acetic acid to reconstitute. AA provides the proper ph. It will degrade very fast in bac water.

40 to 60mcg pre workout. I also use first thing in the morning. Don't expect for it to do what all the studies claim because it won't. Igf is better used to shuttle nutrients.

Well, that is slightly discouraging to hear. I'm almost 40 and have been on 2.5IU HGH/5x a week for 7 weeks and was thinking about adding 50mcg LR3 PWO. I'm not looking for world-beating gains (I'd rather not go back on the sauce - been natural for last 12 years), but I'd like to add 5-10lbs of lean mass and reverse some connective tissue damage from years of abuse.

Am I wasting my time and money???

 

[UserAt204]

Your igf levels should be great because gh converts igf in the liver and it's the best most effective type of igf, naturally occurring. Guys running gh use igf but you have to worry about timing because it might be able to hinder gh. Most guys just separate it by a couple hours even though lr3 is systemic for hours.

For you I would look at igf DES pre workout. I personally think it's stronger than lr3 and love the stuff but I still use lr3. DES clears the system faster but is stronger, gives better pumps and fullness. It also helps with glucose disposal and shuttling nutrients. So it helps keep you lean on higher carbs. I wouldn't think you will see huge gains but during one cycle I hit a plateau, added lr3, and didn't change anything else, after two weeks I put on 8 more lbs. Was it the igf, I don't know but it may have helped. You can get this stuff cheap. Try precisionpeptides or extremepeptides or manpowernutrition

 

[Flexy Flexerson]

Thanks so much, Userat204!

My joints are pretty torn up (been lifting heavy since 1989) with alot of snap, crackle and pop. And my shoulder has been bugging me alot for the last 6 months (I think it's bursitis, but haven't been to a doc). So far the GH has gotten me leaner without changing my diet, but I haven't had any sort of healing relief yet. Perhaps I need to give it more time?
You don't think the GH could exacerbate my shoulder issues, do you?

Also, I don't want to mess with slin or any of that other stuff. I just want to do peptides (GH and IGF of some sort). Can I get by without taking any other stuff?

Much appreciated.

 

[UserAt204]

I would give it some time but it seems that most start to notice the joint relief relatively fast. I would continue to research peptides as I believe they have many good uses in these aspects. Even the gh releasing peptides provide relief. Ostarine has been shown to help with this also. But if the gh isn't doing it for you, I'm not sure where to go from there. I'm weighing my options at this point because I'm getting a lot of joint pain but I can still tolerate it at this point but still looking into many things.

How long have you been on gh. I know cjc1293/ghrp produce very good results and it is fairly quick but with gh it can take time. If I find anything more helpful I will let you know.

 

[shulson]

how long would igf last in bac water?

 

[ColSanders]

how long would igf last in bac water?

I hear that its only good for a day or two, but again I'm not the pro here. It sounds like you need to get some AA to reconstitute first. I googled AA found some places to buy it and found a few sites on how to make it.

Any one else have any input on this?

 

[UserAt204]

There is some debate as to how long it will last in bac water. Some say it's fine for a couple weeks and that once it starts to degrade, that it does so very slowly. Others say it will be no good very fast. In .6% AA it will last as long as needed.

I just make the AA so I have enough to last a year at a time for about $8. I could make enough to last 10 years for that price but chose not to. All you need is distilled white vinegar, distilled water, and a whatman filter. 7.5 parts distilled water and 1 part white vinegar, mix then filter. Easy way to think of it is 7.5cc water to 1cc vinegar. I usually do 75cc water and 10cc vinegar through 1 filter and you have a lot to use.