Been on too long

jeff daviss

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Been on for a year and have not run no hcg, so I have no nuts. Been running test at 450mg a week and Eq at 5oomg a week. I have 30,000 units of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and plan on comeing off in about 10 weeks from now. Does anyone have any suggestions on what amount I should run. I also have nolv and clom, Should I use a large amount of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) now or just start with 250 every 3 days.


Also my bottles of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) come in 10,000 units, how many cc of Ba water should I add to the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder?

Should I wait till the end to start anything?
 
Is tuis serious? Ive never heard of year round test... Don't the gains subside and ur body get used to that dose fairly quickly? I have a weird feeling about this
 
Not heard of year round test? COME ON!!

Jeff: I would run 5000iu EW, but thats me. You're nuts will need a kickstart.
Now I never get much smaller nuts, even when being on over 1 year without hcg.

good luck. Make sure you have a good post cycle therapy (pct) planned out, and you might want to look into igf-1
 
I've talked to people that have been on for 3 years straight and Im not talking about 125mg a week either. Some have ran a G a week!!!!! If you have'nt heard of things like this, you might wont to check out some other boards!!
 
thats a long time to stay on. i have a friend that did this and developed a heart problem. he almost died so i hope for your sake you have been getting your bloodwork done. What have your gains been? i stayed on for 20 weeks once but after week 10 or 12 i stoped gaining.
 
Wow thts just fucking stupid. I'm sorry but idk y someone would. Heart disease. Enough said.
Goodluck bro and have tests done
 
Is tuis serious? Ive never heard of year round test... Don't the gains subside and ur body get used to that dose fairly quickly? I have a weird feeling about this

needsize came off a 2year cycle, but he ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the whole time.

- To answer you question, go with 250iu's E3D. Id do it till 4days before PCT. Goodluck bro. BTW how were the gains?
 
needsize came off a 2year cycle, but he ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the whole time.

- To answer you question, go with 250iu's E3D. Id do it till 4days before PCT. Goodluck bro. BTW how were the gains?

Damn. That must hve been brutal on his heart.
But I'm curious tithe second part of ur post also
 
- To answer you question, go with 250iu's E3D. Id do it till 4days before PCT. Goodluck bro. BTW how were the gains?

That would be good if he would be doing it from the start.

If i do end of cycle hcg, i would like to do a 1500iu and after 2 days, 1500iu again, and then go to 250-500iu e3d. Using more then 500iu at a time will give u alot of aromatizing in the testes so you migth wanna use nolva or something to combat that. But you do need a good kickstart tho! This works great for me but longest iwe been is about 16weeks.
 
Damn. That must hve been brutal on his heart.
But I'm curious tithe second part of ur post also

So where are the tests that say steroids fuck up youre heart? As they dont.

Also I've just come off a 2 year cycle, with ALL my readings perfect to exactly quote my doc.

Dont believe everything the newspapers try to tell you, cause its bullshit.
 
Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.
Healthy cholesterol was at like 5. Trashed his heart. And his third cycle threw in dbol and FUCKED his liver. Ik these horror stories are far and in between but they still exist. And years of consistant use..... I just do t find that to b safe at all. Just my opponion. But dotbwory I'm not anti steroids at all. I plan to start my first cycle very soon
 
Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.
Healthy cholesterol was at like 5. Trashed his heart. And his third cycle threw in dbol and FUCKED his liver. Ik these horror stories are far and in between but they still exist. And years of consistant use..... I just do t find that to b safe at all. Just my opponion. But dotbwory I'm not anti steroids at all. I plan to start my first cycle very soon


Funny, steroids supposedly fucked up your dad yet youre still going to do them.
 
Isn't there a SWOLE Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol on here somewhere if not look around for it for it is a very good way to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before PCT. I would start with 500iu a day at least!
 
Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.
Healthy cholesterol was at like 5. Trashed his heart. And his third cycle threw in dbol and FUCKED his liver. Ik these horror stories are far and in between but they still exist. And years of consistant use..... I just do t find that to b safe at all. Just my opponion. But dotbwory I'm not anti steroids at all. I plan to start my first cycle very soon

just curious---how much dbol?
one cycle of dbol just does not seem right
 
Hey bast i know this happened to a close friend of mine.Never really looked into it cause i would never think of staying on for that long. let it go! no need to stay on AS that long. Why did you stay on ? just wondering
 
that interview is BS and everyone here loves it cause for once they are not bashing steroids.i googled (heart disease linked to anabolic steroids) i and this came up. one of many articles.How many wrestlers have died from prolong use? if u are not careful they can do serious damage do not cycle for a year its just not a good idea in my opinion.


Download full size image Anabolic Steroids Raise Levels of Harmful Protein
Posted on: Friday, 11 August 2006, 11:40 CDT

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A new study provides more evidence that long-term use of anabolic steroids can cause heart and blood vessel disease, and may even boost the risk of sudden death.

UK researchers found that bodybuilders who used the muscle-building steroids had increased levels of homocysteine, a protein tied to increased mortality, heart disease risk and blood vessel damage, compared with bodybuilders who didn't use the performance-enhancing drugs.

Three steroid users died suddenly during the course of the study, and all had homocysteine levels that were higher than the average for steroid-using study participants.

"The findings of this study suggest that anabolic-androgenic steroids are detrimental to cardiovascular health and appear to be implicated in cardiovascular mortality in long-term anabolic-androgenic steroid abuse," Dr. Michael R. Graham of the University Glamorgan in Pontypridd, Wales and colleagues conclude.

There have been reports suggesting that steroid users face an increased risk of sudden death as well as acute clotting-related health problems such as stroke and heart attack, Graham and his team note.

To determine whether steroid users might have increased homocysteine levels, which could contribute to the risk of heart and blood vessel problems, the researchers measured levels of homocysteine and several other substances in the blood in bodybuilders who had been using steroids for more than 20 years.

They were compared to steroid-using bodybuilders who had abstained from the drugs for three months, bodybuilders who had never used steroids, and sedentary, non-steroid-using men.

Current and past steroid users had higher homocysteine levels than other study participants, as well as "dramatically elevated" levels of hematocrit.

As mentioned, three of the steroid-using bodybuilders died during the study period and all of them had significantly higher levels of homocysteine than the average for the steroid-using group.

Sudden death and acute clotting events "may represent under-appreciated risks" of anabolic steroid use, the team warns.

SOURCE: British Journal of Sports Medicine, July 2006.



Source: REUTERS
 
Little Guy you need to watch that video. You assumptions on AAS and heart disease are simply your own opinion and there is no scientific facts backing those statements.

YouTube - Truth about Steroids
HOW MANY STUDIES HAVE THERE BEEN ON YEAR ROUND USERS! lol didnt mean caps lock.
but seriously! and i didnt mean heart disease in general but heart problems. ik a bunch of guys that it killed there cholesterol and blood pressure! blood pressure "the silent killer" its a sticky.
lmao
 
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