Benefits of Sustanon??

[MotorIHead]

Well this is completely fucked lol first off you dont want the shit in your system long. The faster its out the faster your hormones can get back to normal the faster you can pct the more gains you keep. Im running sus right now for the first 9 weeks and then switching to prop which will cut almost 2 weeks out of my waiting period. Also I will never run it again. I prefer a more even blood level and its hard to get with sus even at eod. Its tren e or c from here on out!!!

LOL how is what I said "completely fucked" ? I stated my opinion, which I think is true. I like long esters, the longer is stays in me the longer I will keep the pump. It makes perfect sense to me. But yes I do agree that the negative would be that ur going to be starting PCT later. So their is a pro and a con BUT the title of the thread was "Benefits of Sus" which IMO is a benefit and I like it.

Now in regards to u saying "The faster its out the faster your hormones can get back to normal the faster you can pct the more gains you keep." How fast u get on PCT has nothing to do with the gains u keep. IDK where u got that from ?

Another thing, Sus should be run for a MIN of 12 weeks (I prefer 16 weeks). IDK why u are stopping at 9 weeks ? Then u say "Its tren e or c from here on out!!!" I've never heard of Tren C. Not only that, but let us know how ur Tren only cycle works out for u

 

[Cobra Strike]

LOL how is what I said "completely fucked" ? I stated my opinion, which I think is true. I like long esters, the longer is stays in me the longer I will keep the pump. It makes perfect sense to me. But yes I do agree that the negative would be that ur going to be starting PCT later. So their is a pro and a con BUT the title of the thread was "Benefits of Sus" which IMO is a benefit and I like it.

Now in regards to u saying "The faster its out the faster your hormones can get back to normal the faster you can pct the more gains you keep." How fast u get on PCT has nothing to do with the gains u keep. IDK where u got that from ?

Another thing, Sus should be run for a MIN of 12 weeks (I prefer 16 weeks). IDK why u are stopping at 9 weeks ? Then u say "Its tren e or c from here on out!!!" I've never heard of Tren C. Not only that, but let us know how ur Tren only cycle works out for u

Miss spell....test c or e. And the longer something is in your system the longer you have to wait till pct...the faster you pct the faster you get your natty test levels up and the more gains you keep. Its not rocket science bro. And if you can read then you would know Im not running a tren only cycle...also the fact that you think you have to run sus at 12 weeks is rediculous...if you know anything about test then you know all the different types of test are just that....test! The only thing that makes a difference are the esters. Test is test is test.

 

[MotorIHead]

Miss spell....test c or e. And the longer something is in your system the longer you have to wait till post cycle therapy (pct)...the faster you post cycle therapy (pct) the faster you get your natty test levels up and the more gains you keep.

I understand that the faster u get on post cycle therapy (pct) the faster ur natural test levels will be normal. I didn't argue that ? But u just repeated urself about the gains ? I said "IDK where u got that from & that how fast u get on post cycle therapy (pct) has nothing to do with how much gains u keep." And ur response was the same thing that u posted before ? Which makes no sense, u didn't have a logical explanation besides repeating urself ?

Its not rocket science bro. And if you can read then you would know Im not running a tren only cycle...

I can read, and I was referring u saying "Its tren e or c from here on out!!!" which u have since told me u miss typed. I guess ur the one that might need to read what I wrote ?

also the fact that you think you have to run sus at 12 weeks is rediculous...

I didn't say u have to. I said it's best run 12 or more weeks but up to 16 IMO. For u to think that it's best to run a deconate ester shorter than 12 weeks is just redic....

if you know anything about test then you know all the different types of test are just that....test! The only thing that makes a difference are the esters. Test is test is test.

Yes I do know this. Ur not teaching me anything I don't know. What's ur point ?

Anything else ?

 

[cashout]

Sustanon was designed to pin weekly and result in steady blood levels.. didnt work.. try it if you must..

+ 1 for this ^^^^

Go to Roid Calculator - half lifes steroids ester half-life and do some "what if" on the different forms of test.

See which ones are "more stable" in terms of blood levels.

Hint: It ain't sust.

 

[Kristofer68ss]

+ 1 for this ^^^^

Go to Roid Calculator - half lifes steroids ester half-life and do some "what if" on the different forms of test.

See which ones are "more stable" in terms of blood levels.

Hint: It ain't sust.

Thats a nice calculator , on paper.

"Please remember that the results are only approximate. The half-lifes used below is based on several scientific studies.
Most of these studies used the glutes as injection site, if you inject in the delta muscle you will have much longer half-lives, try doubling all half-lives."

Too many factors to consider for this to be the be all end all for the argument of against sustanon.

So according to that, just shoot in the delta(which head?),and the half-lives double.

yeah okay.

I know what works for me and I would rather not be a pin cushion if the results are the same.

 

[RJ]

Using the knowledge of half times, I suspect that pinning enathate eod would result in more stable blood levels. My plan is to write a program that optimises the tests levels in your blood stream by calculating the best possible way to keep them steady in terms of how much to inject, when to inject and what ester to inject.

Please tell me ur kidding.

Guys, this isn't rocket surgery. lol

I don't understand why you guys turn this into such a big deal. However you use Sust that works for you is wonderful. Why does it matter?

I said I liked Tren MWF in a thread and Stone made a big fuss about it. I've been doing the shit my way for years. And it obviously works just fine. Now granted, some guys do dumb shit yes that we need to say something. But you guys are splitting hairs. You want to know the truth. Sustanon was actually designed with Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) in mind to be shot once a MONTH. Thats right. Once a month. Can you imagine. Again, this is why studies mean shit. Find what works and go to town.

My advice, put the effort you're thinking of putting into writing a program into eating big and lifting big and i promise you will grow.

Jesus Christ. I'm all for debate, but some of these posts are retarded.

 

[Kristofer68ss]

Lol, True.

Guilty.

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Please tell me ur kidding.

Guys, this isn't rocket surgery. lol

I don't understand why you guys turn this into such a big deal. However you use Sust that works for you is wonderful. Why does it matter?

I said I liked Tren MWF in a thread and Stone made a big fuss about it. I've been doing the shit my way for years. And it obviously works just fine. Now granted, some guys do dumb shit yes that we need to say something. But you guys are splitting hairs. You want to know the truth. Sustanon was actually designed with Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) in mind to be shot once a MONTH. Thats right. Once a month. Can you imagine. Again, this is why studies mean shit. Find what works and go to town.

My advice, put the effort you're thinking of putting into writing a program into eating big and lifting big and i promise you will grow.

Jesus Christ. I'm all for debate, but some of these posts are retarded.

my thoughts exactly...

 

[UserAt204]

Exactly. Too much thought. I've tried ED, EOD, and now trying once a week at higher doses. Really I just had a lot of sus and want to use it so I can get back to E and C

I felt like crap doing ED and EOD. So far so good with once a week but only been 3 weeks so can't really tell. The point is there is no best way it's how it works for you the best or even works well. Everyone will have a somewhat different experience and as long as diet and training are on point it shouldn't make that much of a difference

Don't get me wrong, I believe stable blood levels are best, but as long as you are reaching goals and making gains then go with it. If it stops working then it's time to rethink things. Sus is good in my book but I will be a one ester guy from here on out.

 

[Good Grip]

From the friends ive observed using Sustanon (sust). They like it for sure, mass, strength, but a lot of them experienced gyno too. Also from what ive seen, using 3 amps (750mgs) a week seemed to provide the best results.

 

[ezred]

I have to spend loads of time thinking about stupid shit to keep myself from over training. it is part of my rest equation. give me too much spare time and I will eat or train too heavy or too long.

besides, I type super fast and barely spend any time on most of my posts even thought they get long as hell.

can't you just leave us academic types be so we can discuss and debate about irrelevant shit for hours on end?

Please tell me ur kidding.

Guys, this isn't rocket surgery. lol

I don't understand why you guys turn this into such a big deal. However you use Sust that works for you is wonderful. Why does it matter?

I said I liked Tren MWF in a thread and Stone made a big fuss about it. I've been doing the shit my way for years. And it obviously works just fine. Now granted, some guys do dumb shit yes that we need to say something. But you guys are splitting hairs. You want to know the truth. Sustanon was actually designed with Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) in mind to be shot once a MONTH. Thats right. Once a month. Can you imagine. Again, this is why studies mean shit. Find what works and go to town.

My advice, put the effort you're thinking of putting into writing a program into eating big and lifting big and i promise you will grow.

Jesus Christ. I'm all for debate, but some of these posts are retarded.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Anything else ?

I have been doing alot of research trying to find out about the gains versus time off but there isnt a whole lot out there about it. Im not saying your wrong but I have been coached by a very knowlegdable guy on this site about that and I pm'd him to ask his reasoning since I cant seem to find any info on it. I will post up any info I find as to better clarify the situation.

As far as this whole spelling thing goes...seriously...we are arguing about that?

The decanoate ester...The 12 week opinion you have is just that...your opinion. The deca ester is known to be fully released in approx a months time but is found that the levels drop off dramatically after 2 weeks. With there being so many esters in sustanon, just going 12 weeks specifically for the decanoate ester seems insignificant. There is plenty of test biult up in your system from sus that (IMO) you do not have to run it for that long to get the full benefits of the esters.

Also I am not trying to teach you anything. We are both arguing our opinions which both opinions, to me, are conceivable. Its arguments like this that better teach me and make me break down my logic and find the neccessary answers in details...which I am working on. I am always a student first

 

[Rhentious]

Please tell me ur kidding.

Guys, this isn't rocket surgery. lol

I don't understand why you guys turn this into such a big deal. However you use Sust that works for you is wonderful. Why does it matter?

I'm pretty confident it would be possible to mathematically prove that enanthate results in more stable blood levels than sustanon in all possible cycles. I don't know if I have the mathematical ability to do that. However, I can show examples using graphs of blood levels which will make it obvious that it's true.

 

[ghosthost]

yo cobra what is regular sus injection schedule based on mon-sun for you?

 

[Cobra Strike]

yo cobra what is regular sus injection schedule based on mon-sun for you?

I pin Mon wed and Fri on sus....but everyone has their own opinion on it as u can see

 

[ghosthost]

I want to shot my cat up, will she benefit from sus

 

[Cobra Strike]

if its a male then yes

 

[Cobra Strike]

just make sure you get the baseline blood work done lol

 

[irishmaniac]

way to stand your ground brother lol.. glad it works for you.. never said it didnt.. i just feel single esters get the job done.. to each his own..

yeh man. totally agree. lotta people down here crave sust..... never noticed a difference...test cyp all the way!!!!!

 

[MotorIHead]

I have been doing alot of research trying to find out about the gains versus time off but there isnt a whole lot out there about it. Im not saying your wrong but I have been coached by a very knowlegdable guy on this site about that and I pm'd him to ask his reasoning since I cant seem to find any info on it. I will post up any info I find as to better clarify the situation.

That's cool. BUT u are saying I'm wrong, b/c u said "the faster you post cycle therapy (pct) the faster you get your natty test levels up and the more gains you keep." and I said "how fast u get on post cycle therapy (pct) has nothing to do with how much gains u keep." So u are saying I'm wrong.

As far as this whole spelling thing goes...seriously...we are arguing about that?

No not at all. If u just read what I wrote open minded u'll understand what I was saying.

The decanoate ester...The 12 week opinion you have is just that...your opinion. The deca ester is known to be fully released in approx a months time but is found that the levels drop off dramatically after 2 weeks. With there being so many esters in sustanon, just going 12 weeks specifically for the decanoate ester seems insignificant. There is plenty of test biult up in your system from sus that (IMO) you do not have to run it for that long to get the full benefits of the esters.

Well I think u do. And I think that 100% of the people on this board (well repp'd & respected people, not noobs) will agree with me !

Also I am not trying to teach you anything. We are both arguing our opinions which both opinions, to me, are conceivable. Its arguments like this that better teach me and make me break down my logic and find the neccessary answers in details...which I am working on. I am always a student first

Yes we are, but my opinions can be backed by facts. I don't see where ur's can be ? Please just find me where it's best to run any Deconate ester 8 weeks or less. Also how fast u get on post cycle therapy (pct) making u keep more gains.