Best cycle for a pitcher

yeah i take that one back I know the vets are here to help but damn man you guys are hard on newbs bro....I understand why though AAS is serious business

if the newbs would listen we wouldnt be hard on them. they come on here with half assed cycles or weighing 150 pounds or 18 years old or etc. and when we tell them the truth they argue , whine , justiy , rationalize,etc.
most of them dont want advice , they want someone to agree with them and give them a pat on the back.
 
thanks for the help guys...

Da Dawg- Im just curious...why do you recomend a test only cycle for first timers?

I will keep reading and follow your advice...I just dont understand why it would hurt to take both Test e/ and something like EQ to keep things as lean as possible... I dont want water retention.

Alot of pitchers are taking equipose i guess
 
^ whats the nolan ryan express? Im almost positive nolan ryan didnt juice

If your just being a wise ass again, than thanks for nothing might as well post in a different thread dude
 
if the newbs would listen we wouldnt be hard on them. they come on here with half assed cycles or weighing 150 pounds or 18 years old or etc. and when we tell them the truth they argue , whine , justiy , rationalize,etc.
most of them dont want advice , they want someone to agree with them and give them a pat on the back.

brutal honesty....gotta love it!!
 
thanks for the help guys...

Da Dawg- Im just curious...why do you recomend a test only cycle for first timers?

I will keep reading and follow your advice...I just dont understand why it would hurt to take both Test e/ and something like EQ to keep things as lean as possible... I dont want water retention.

Alot of pitchers are taking equipose i guess

you have no idea what your doing and no idea what it actually feels like on a 1ST cycle . test should be in every cycle that you run so by doing it by itself you know exactly how you respond . if you do 2 or 3 compounds on a 1st cycle how would you know which one made you grow or which one causes side effects ? you wouldnt know and thats the point . besides if you dont make solid progress from a moderate dose of test by itself on a 1st or even 2 nd cycle theres a problem with your diet and training . test is plenty for a 1st and probablly even 2nd cycle.
 
Aight man, i understand where your comin from now... with sides etc.

I have had a couple other veterans just tell me to take a low dose of trenbolone made from finaplex and HGH, the sides are "overrated" is what hes saying.

Theres no way in hell im taking the strongest steroid there is for my first cycle though!

Im not too worried about sides, I just want to do whats best for my situation, and i will probably just run test e to be safe, just not looking forward to the water weight associated with it.

i want the most vascular leanest muscle possible. My diet is spot on, im around 185lbs 8% body fat. Ive been clocked recently at 89mph, and i know for a fact i can add some speed with hormones. Ive seen pitchers add up to 7mph on their fastball. Im just looking to hit the low 90's and improve confidence. Im more of a location pitcher, and ive had great success changing arm angles, throwing off the hitter.
 
Im sure i could talk to a few people i play ball with about this, but i want to remain as discreet as possible. No one will know about this.

With the way the economy is right now, ive got nothing to lose in this adventure, i dont care if i "cheat" doing it, im just trying to support myself and hopefully family.

ya GOTTA HAVE A DREAM!!!
 
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