Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
TUDCA & NAC
Everything else is bullchit.
Everything else is bullchit.
Best liver products you guys can swear by ...
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soldier74
avi changes as i do
Liv52 is good liver support while on cycle.
JimiThing
Moderator
It is actually used to treat alcohol induced choleostasis so id say definitely.
JimiThing
Moderator
Do you really find it makes a difference? That stuff has been around for years and years ago I used to take it but I didnt think it did jack so I stopped. I still hear it mentioned and it has been around so long I cant help but wonder if maybe there was something to it I missed.
Milton
Administrator
Nice, how about if someone had issues with malaria in the past?
soldier74
avi changes as i do
Just going by the research I've read on it, yes it's sounds pretty effective. I haven't had blood work done while using it after a blast so really cant say yes thru experience. That's something I'll find out in the near future tho as I just started taking liv recently.
Dreaded Pirate Roberts
Administrator
Suma root ....
JimiThing
Moderator
Hey if you do get an opportunity thru blood work to say indicatively please share it with us, I would very much like to know. For example i know NAC and UDCA work thru, as u said, experience and blood work, it would be great if that could be said for Liv 52 as well.
JimiThing
Moderator
This is another I have heard mentioned. Not so much in BB circles but its out there in a lot of liver cleanse products.
halfwit
I like turtles.
You won't see an improvement over UDCA Jimi. I use it as an intermediate step going from NAC to NAC + Liv.52 to the first two plus UDCA. You'll see another 5-20 points come of AST/ALT if already high, otherwise NAC is fine for everyday use and adding UDCA is more than fine for hepatotoxic cycles.
For those asking about kidneys, I posed that question to my nephrologist, who says a good multivitamin with LOW Potassium and high vitamin D help, but nothing like NAC unfortunately. Oh, and I found out that taking ibuprofen to avoid acetaminophen was shooting myself in the foot. So if you have any kidney issues (diabetes, etc), avoid ibuprofen.
JimiThing
Moderator
You won't see an improvement over UDCA Jimi. I use it as an intermediate step going from NAC to NAC + Liv.52 to the first two plus UDCA. You'll see another 5-20 points come of AST/ALT if already high, otherwise NAC is fine for everyday use and adding UDCA is more than fine for hepatotoxic cycles.
For those asking about kidneys, I posed that question to my nephrologist, who says a good multivitamin with LOW Potassium and high vitamin D help, but nothing like NAC unfortunately. Oh, and I found out that taking ibuprofen to avoid acetaminophen was shooting myself in the foot. So if you have any kidney issues (diabetes, etc), avoid ibuprofen.
Yeah nsaids are brutal on the kidneys, i learned that the hard way one time. Its amazing they are sold so indiscriminately OTC without warning re potential renal effects.
soldier74
avi changes as i do
You won't see an improvement over UDCA Jimi. I use it as an intermediate step going from NAC to NAC + Liv.52 to the first two plus UDCA. You'll see another 5-20 points come of AST/ALT if already high, otherwise NAC is fine for everyday use and adding UDCA is more than fine for hepatotoxic cycles.
For those asking about kidneys, I posed that question to my nephrologist, who says a good multivitamin with LOW Potassium and high vitamin D help, but nothing like NAC unfortunately. Oh, and I found out that taking ibuprofen to avoid acetaminophen was shooting myself in the foot. So if you have any kidney issues (diabetes, etc), avoid ibuprofen.
Are u saying liv52 will take 5-20 point off alt/alt if high??
halfwit
I like turtles.
It has for me, yes.
soldier74
avi changes as i do
Definantly will do my freind! I've had elevated Alt/Alt numbers ever since I was cured of hepatitis. I'm sure its at least somewhat due to ASS use tho. But I should be able to tell if it helps me. The research I've read on it said it has helped people with similar situations, that's why I'm giving it a go.
soldier74
avi changes as i do
That's good to hear brother. Thanks!!
I also have heard that when one stops taking it,liv52, the condition they had returns...elevated numbers or what not. U experience that HW??
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
Stuff is given out like candy on halloween night in rehabs and hospitals.
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
It's got some peer-reviewed research and halfwit backing it up. I'm in!
halfwit
I like turtles.
I come off the liver toxic stuff before I stop taking it, so I can't answer that one. Black Beard is totally right too; Liv.52 does have peer reviewed studies showing it is effective. That's one of the reasons why I tried it in the first place. I do also suggest NAC year-round, as the benefits are worth it.
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
So liv 52, TUDCA, and NAC. The ultimate liver stack.
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