Best Roid - Not Test

[tatu]

So what are your opinions? I do not think I respond well to Test, so I'm going to try something different. What besides Test will give good gains, mass and strength wise...?

 

[PrincessTitty]

does your doing test include sustanon?

 

[lil g]

just stack your shit man, im sick and tired of reading these threads about people only wanting to run 1 substance...if you gunna do it do it right...people on here saying ...i wanna do deca only...i wanna do dbol only...i wanna do winstrol only...then you fucking hear people complaining about how they didnt gain any size. FUCK DUDE...lol no offense to you bro...but if you ran a test only cycle and didnt gain anything either the gear was fake or you didnt diet/train/sleep right. what was your dose on the test? and what are your stats....oh and what kind of test did u take?

 

[lil g]

i think you should run test/deca by the way... or test/dbol

Test@500mg/week weeks 1-10
deca@300 or 400mg week weeks 1-10

or

Test@500mg/week weeks 1-10
dbol@30mg/day weeks 1-6

dont mind my post up there im just tired of these threads. test is the #1 thing in the cycle, then comes the other shit

 

[tatu]

Once I stacked test and EQ. The eq worked, not the test, IMO. I only gained a few pounds of lean muscle.

This last one, I was doing 800mgs of Cyp. Nothing. 2 different brands. Possibly both fake, but I dobt it. I'm just pretty much set w Test.

I want to try a different stack w/o Test, and preferably w/o Deca (since I'm not longing for Deca-Dick).

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Stats:

24
5'4"
166#
BF app. 14%.

I'm pretty f'ing big for a short fella. And strong too.

 

[Mudge]

For mass you need food, you can run all the drugs in the world but without the food all you will pull in is some water and a little meat.

If you want strength in an injectable, tren tren tren.

If you want weight though it comes down to food, there is no escaping that. I count my calories at every meal, tally it up at the end of the day, and average it out over the week and look at weight gained or lost during that time.

I get emails sometimes from people complaining about various sources or brands because their gear "doesn't work." Thats bullshit, if you dont eat you wont gain. Not enough people count calories.

 

[lil g]

Once I stacked test and EQ. The eq worked, not the test, IMO. I only gained a few pounds of lean muscle.

This last one, I was doing 800mgs of Cyp. Nothing. 2 different brands. Possibly both fake, but I dobt it. I'm just pretty much set w Test.

I want to try a different stack w/o Test, and preferably w/o Deca (since I'm not longing for Deca-Dick).

...

Stats:

24
5'4"
166#
BF app. 14%.

I'm pretty f'ing big for a short fella. And strong too.

so when u took the 800mg of cyp. you didnt gain anything....how was the strength? you probobly didnt eat enough

 

[JuicEvrything]

I have to agree with the boys. Eat Eat, I'm also 5'4" but 200lbs, I started working out 2 1/2 years ago at a ripped 127lbs lol and only have 3 cycles under my belt and they've all been test/d-bol stacks.

O and I'm stronger too!!

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Once I stacked test and EQ. The eq worked, not the test, IMO. I only gained a few pounds of lean muscle.

This last one, I was doing 800mgs of Cyp. Nothing. 2 different brands. Possibly both fake, but I dobt it. I'm just pretty much set w Test.

I want to try a different stack w/o Test, and preferably w/o Deca (since I'm not longing for Deca-Dick).

...

Stats:

24
5'4"
166#
BF app. 14%.

I'm pretty f'ing big for a short fella. And strong too.

how do you know it was the EQ and not the TEST ?

 

[lil g]

I have to agree with the boys. Eat Eat, I'm also 5'4" but 200lbs, I started working out 2 1/2 years ago at a ripped 127lbs lol and only have 3 cycles under my belt and they've all been test/d-bol stacks.

O and I'm stronger too!!

thats what i like to read....

 

[Spartie]

OK...to answer your question:
The best anabolic, other than Testosterone, to increase your mass gains is.....PROTEIN!!!!!!
I suggest about 1.5 grams of Protein per pound of bodyweight for you. You will get bigger, stronger, and reduce your recovery time!
800mg of test per week and minimal gains for you? I assume that you ate Hot Pockets for dinner, and just coffee for breakfast?

Bottom Line: If test did not make you grow atall...then nothing will unless YOU change someting about your diet, training, and/or recovery process.

If size came in a little vial...then we would ALL be fucking Ronnie Coleman...would we not?????

 

[blackbeard]

Once I stacked test and EQ. The eq worked, not the test, IMO. I only gained a few pounds of lean muscle.

there is no way for you to say it was the EQ that gave you all the gains..

bottom line is any compund or cycle you come up with will need to have some test in it.. if nothing more than for libido purposes..however i dont see how you can use 800mg of cyp and not have any gains to me that says something is off with your diet and/or training...

Be honest with yourself have you been eating enough to grow? are you getting rest? are you overtraining?

 

[tatu]

there is no way for you to say it was the EQ that gave you all the gains..

Again, that was my opinion after seeing minimal size gains and modest strength gains w lean muscle. It just diesn;t sound like something test would do since I didn't blow up, retain water, break out w acne, etc.

bottom line is any compund or cycle you come up with will need to have some test in it.. if nothing more than for libido purposes..however i dont see how you can use 800mg of cyp and not have any gains to me that says something is off with your diet and/or training...

Be honest with yourself have you been eating enough to grow? are you getting rest? are you overtraining?

My training is fine and in fact just the other day, I put up over 900# on the leg press machine which was a new feat.

I suppose I could eat more, but how do I know the juice is whats making me grow and not the food?

Sample breakfast:
Protein shake, 4 eggs, 2 English Muffins w/ PB, banana, and sometimes cereal.

I eat at least 3 more times during the day, usually 4. I have a high metabolism, but I wouldn't trade it.

I don't drink coffe, avoid sugary foods, never eat fast foods, etc. I eat healthy and fairly hearty.

2 other people tried the same Cyp and gained nothing, so I think it was fake. I've tried test a few times w no results, so I guess I just get all the fake shit around. Even if I slacked, which I don't, I would still expect some gains - shit, cows don't exercise and they grow

Oh, and Spartie, I wouldn't fuck Ronnie Coleman regardless of size coming in a bottle. I wouldn't fuck him at all.

 

[blackbeard]

i wasnt flaming you but there is no way scientifically you can conclude that the EQ gave you gains and not test..

remember we all react differently to test..you dont have to blow up get acne and retain water..

a 900# leg press doesnt really tell me anything except that you dont squat..

diet-bfast looks good..make sure youre getting plenty of protein close to 2g/lb of BW cals should be high 18-25xBW depending on if your a hardgainer or not

 

[syko]

dude....quit arguing and eat 8 times a day....then ull grow...quit using steroids and spend that money in the grocery store

 

[tatu]

dude....quit arguing

Arguing?

Anyways, I guess this is going in a wrong direction.

So does anyone have a favorite stack w/o test?

 

[TheSizzler]

Cyp , deca and dbol !! Grew like a weed on that !! boooya

 

[jcp2]

Arguing?

Anyways, I guess this is going in a wrong direction.

So does anyone have a favorite stack w/o test?

I would probably run Eq masteron tren, if i had too. masteron i beleive will cure any sexual sides from not running test.

 

[fergie]

For mass you need food, you can run all the drugs in the world but without the food all you will pull in is some water and a little meat.

If you want strength in an injectable, tren tren tren.

If you want weight though it comes down to food, there is no escaping that. I count my calories at every meal, tally it up at the end of the day, and average it out over the week and look at weight gained or lost during that time.

I get emails sometimes from people complaining about various sources or brands because their gear "doesn't work." Thats bullshit, if you dont eat you wont gain. Not enough people count calories.

AGREED - TREN'S MY CHOICE EVEN BEFORE TEST

 

[tatu]

Okay, fine. Since I've never tried a true stack, how does

Enan, Winstrol (winny), Dbol sound?