BIG CYCLE, please advise, third cycle

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IMe

Amateur Bodybuilder
Okay guys, I've finished a small cycle of tbol and prop, also done my post cycle therapy (pct), taking a bit of time off, although I am planning my next cycle now. I plan on competiting next march so this is an off season cycle to get some good gains without too much water retention and bloat. First off my stats are as follows:

Weight: 235 lbs
Height: 5'11
Bf%: 15-18%

Cycle:
Week 1-5: Anadrol 50 mg ED
Week 1- 10: Test E 1000mg EW
Week 1- 10: Tren E 300 mg EW
Week 1- 10: Deca 600 mg EW
Week 10- 15: Test E 500 mg EW
Week 10- 15: Anavar 60 mg ED
Week 15- 17: Prop 100 mg EOD followed by PCT

HCG shots throughout cycle with Arimidex and PCT: HCG, nolvadex and clomid

Any adjustments you guys see necessary pls don't hesitate!
 
Dude, I am a newbie on this board so my question is not out of flaming, it is more out of curiosity.

Why are you going so heavy on the Doses? Just seems like a really BIG cycle, perhaps really dangerous. Again, I am just curious to your logic.

I know that 3 years ago I was on a Test Cyph/HGH cycle and I started about 750MG a week and that was way too high. Actually made me sick, weak, tired.. When I dropped it down to 500MG per week I was g2g. Now again that could have been since that was my first cycle and my body wasn't used to it, but damn.. LOL But then on top of that you are stacking Deca, tren, etc.... Damnnnnn. LOL



IMe said:
Okay guys, I've finished a small cycle of tbol and prop, also done my post cycle therapy (pct), taking a bit of time off, although I am planning my next cycle now. I plan on competiting next march so this is an off season cycle to get some good gains without too much water retention and bloat. First off my stats are as follows:

Weight: 235 lbs
Height: 5'11
Bf%: 15-18%

Cycle:
Week 1-5: Anadrol 50 mg ED
Week 1- 10: Test E 1000mg EW
Week 1- 10: Tren E 300 mg EW
Week 1- 10: Deca 600 mg EW
Week 10- 15: Test E 500 mg EW
Week 10- 15: Anavar 60 mg ED
Week 15- 17: Prop 100 mg EOD followed by PCT

HCG shots throughout cycle with Arimidex and PCT: HCG, nolvadex and clomid

Any adjustments you guys see necessary pls don't hesitate!
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your bf + bulking cycle + the amount of gear = a bad idea

Looks like you want to do bulk then cut in the same cycle? From what people say it doesnt work too good that way

second of all you shouldnt run deca and tren in one cycle...too much progesterone activity...you will fuck yourself up

Im not sure what to tell you since you want to compete in the future and my knowledge is only based on amateur body building so...but you need to get your bf down first b4 running huge cycles like that or the sides will eat you alive...wouldnt be surprised if your head fell off from all that estrogen

anyways too much too soon...if this is your 3rd cycle how much gear you want to run for your 10th cycle?

want to hit it hard? Drop bf down and run 250-300 test/week + 500+ tren e/week
or 750 test +500deca/week that should get you wherever you want with the right diet
 
Sadista said:
your bf + bulking cycle + the amount of gear = a bad idea

Looks like you want to do bulk then cut in the same cycle? From what people say it doesnt work too good that way

second of all you shouldnt run deca and tren in one cycle...too much progesterone activity...you will fuck yourself up

Im not sure what to tell you since you want to compete in the future and my knowledge is only based on amateur body building so...but you need to get your bf down first b4 running huge cycles like that or the sides will eat you alive...wouldnt be surprised if your head fell off from all that estrogen

anyways too much too soon...if this is your 3rd cycle how much gear you want to run for your 10th cycle?

want to hit it hard? Drop bf down and run 250-300 test/week + 500+ tren e/week
or 750 test +500deca/week that should get you wherever you want with the right diet
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I appreciate the info and lack of flaming actually lol, I completely see where you're coming from with the progesterone sides, Ive actually been reading up a bit and I think I'm gonna change the cycle to eq instead of tren so I'd run eq test and deca, since there's no progesterone sides with the eq. After the cycle I'm gonna do a short four week cruise with 500mg test e ew and start up some tren e and test e.
 
Damn Brother U trying to shut down your entire system? Personally havent used AD for 20 years. Just my opinion but its an exspensive water bloat. Im getting kidney pains just looking at that cycle. I like test between 200 and 400 with the Tren about the same. I also like Deca in those numbers with Tren as well. I know alot of people are gona flip me S%@t about the Deca and Tren together. I have ran it personally and didnt have any issues. I think alot of people read the stats on them and put them down together. With out personally trying it. We are all different and respond different to different thing. In all honesty I would really think what your planning threw very carefully.
 
GYMRAT233 said:
far too much tht cycle i think u would benifit more from creatine if you want to put on some lean muscle mass!!
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Ok, I understand the cycle is huge and not the smartest thing to do which is why im changing it up but really? Creatine? Come on now...
 
1)Where is the caber or prami???? Especially if your gonna run Tren and Deca together.

2)Regardless of what you decide, I would not drop the test dose during the cycle.

3)That will be hard to recover from. If this is onmly your 3rd, and you wanna do that, your gonna wind up having to stay on one day.

4) EAT A LOT!!!! HAVE FUN!!!
 
There is so much wrong with this it's hard to say where to start.
1000mg test from the get go is a waste and I don't understand the drop to 500mg on week 10. Then the test prop at the end would work better at the start. Deca or tren... choose one. Also Anadrol and he's concerned about water retention.... lol
 
Im guessing your probably like in your 50's needing such high dose of test? lol Yeah def wanna drop that to 500mg/wk eq 500wk/deca400mg wk/adrol 50mg ed week 1-4 add your liver protectant incase.. prior,durning after n youd be bout right for a good bulk.
 
Sorry for not giving you a better answer last time around.
Here are 2 cycles that could work in your favor. The boys are running tren different now days so if I'm off I hope someone can jump in and make the correction. I'm not a big fan of Anadrol. I ran it twice and got a pinch in my side and headaches from it so I stopped. I sugest you do the same.

You might have to eyeball some of those injections but I always do anyway. Kinda get use to it after a while.

All this is open for tweaking.....

(1)
Anadrol 50mg day weeks 1-4
test prop 100mg eod weeks 1-4
test E 750mg eod or 2x week 1-16
Deca 500mg 2x week 1-14

(2)
Anadrol 50mg day weeks 1-4
test prop 100mg eod weeks 1-4
test E 400mg 2x week 1-16
Tren E 600mg 2x week 1-14
Anavar 80mg day weeks 13-16

You might just get away with using Aromsin on both those at 12.5mg eod and bump it up as high as 25mg day if or when you get sides.

Arimidex .5mg ed tapering it to .25mg ed 2 weeks into post cycle therapy (pct). You may need to have a DA on hand like Caber just incase of prolactin gyno. Not so much with Aromasin I found. Always get advice before taking a DA.

Use both Clomid and Nolvadex on this cycle since you have it.
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Sorry I don't have advice for HCG....
 
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Anadrol 50mg day weeks 1-4
test prop 100mg eod weeks 1-4
test E 750mg eod or 2x week 1-16
Deca 500mg 2x week 1-14

I like the sound of this one, but don't you think the numbers are a little high? My joints would love me for running the deca but 1000 mg EW sounds like I'm gonna have to take a long break from the gf. . .yeah I forgot to add in also that I will be getting caber for the pro sides
 
Little high ? lol ! You're the guy who wanted to run all of it ... haha !

No matter, It's open.. You could run the test at 650mg and deca 450mg no problem. Aromasin will most likely help with labito but you may not even be prone to that side.

The first 4 weeks will just fly by. After that you are running on only test and deca. That's a pretty nice stack that's easy to manage.

I would have prefered 5-6 weeks of Dbol over the Anadrol but to each his own...
 
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