Blasting & post cycle therapy (pct) on TRT?

[MonsterMedic]

Blasting & PCT on TRT?

I've been a TRT/HRT patient for 3-4 yrs now (with a recent break of about 6months due to a distinct lack of employment and health insurance BUT I am back on with a great doc!) and having already contracted with 3J to punch up my current diet have begun contemplating an AAS cycle. I've never cycled before and will include pertinent stats and information at the end of this message.

1) For those who have Blasted, did you start with just Testosterone or because of your experiences from testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), did you start with Test + one or more additional compounds?

2) Is post cycle therapy (pct) necessary on TRT? My own levels being extremely suppressed and the majority of my T coming from exogenous doses it does not seem like it would be.

Age: 33 (34 in less than a month)
Years Training: 7
Bodyfat %: 14-16% (based on self-estimation using the photo comparison method)
Number of Prior Cycles Completed: 0

 

[cjw2021]

No cycle talk in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum. Maximus' rules. Please ask this in the steroid thread out of respect for Chip and his company of hard working doctors. We do testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doses and talk about that in this forum. post cycle therapy (pct) is used to restart endogenous production. You have insufficient production as it is. There is nothing to restart.

 

[MonsterMedic]

I didn't realize there was no cycle talk in this forum. I'll PM StoneColdNTO or 3J and get this moved!

Mea culpa.

 

[cjw2021]

no problem.

 

[mlc31]

no worries monster. you'll definitely get better help in the aas section. good luck.

 

[MonsterMedic]

Bump

 

[MeatHead96]

I have blasted with test/dbol, test/masteron, and currently test/deca/dbol. You do not need post cycle therapy (pct) when you are on trt. The point of post cycle therapy (pct) is to get your testes to begin producing natty test again, which your body is already unable to produce sufficient amounts of. Be careful about blood testing if you are on TRT. You may want to talk to those who are on legit testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) about that as mine is currently self-administered (not the smartest option but there is reasoning behind it). Good luck.

 

[Zeek]

MM since this will be your first blast I would keep it simple since gains will be great regardless. Save the extra compounds for future blasts. 500mg/week test should yield you some very nice results on this first go around if you have been on true testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosages of less than 200mg test/ week.

 

[funkymonk]

Just up the test dosage for a few weeks.
No PCT required ever, but be mindful of the usual cycling sides like cholesterol, blood pressure, and elevated (beyond your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) levels) estrogen.

Also, be mindful of the proximity of your blast to your followup bloodwork for the doc.

 

[MonsterMedic]

Meathead: Thanks for replying. It's always good to hear from another fellow on Low T!

Zeek: The true therapeutic index for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) can and is often is more than the sub-200mgs/week you referred to. That value is merely a formulary dosage at best. Depending on a given case (natural production levels, symptoms of the patient, etc.) the correct therapeutic dosage for the patient is often at least 200mgs/week or more. In my case, I'm one of the (un)lucky ones.

 

[Cobra Strike]

I know guys that are scripted for more then 200mg a week....their constantly around 1000ng/dl levels....there is a fudge factor with trt...the deal is that everyone operates optimally at different levels of test...its all in what makes you feel the best or what is a good level for you...you can argue pretty easily with a doc i.e. doc im always feeling depressed and my libido is not there....shit like that and dosages can be adjusted legally.

any way back to the topic...I think you should bump your test up to 500mg a week for 12 weeks or so and then drop it back to your prescribed testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage...that will give you some experience with sides (if any) and estro control....Its still a good idea to get blood work half way through your blast so try to find another lab to do this at so it stays away from your doc i.e. lab corp. Only blood work will tell you where your estro is at and its good to know what you need for an anti e dosage...not to much and not to little and like stated above...be knowledgable about when your doc is going to want blood work...

then your next blast you can add another compound

 

[funkymonk]

Cobra (or anyone) what are your thoughts on blasting with the addition of an oral only? It'd essentially be an oral only cycle that everyone recommends against, but since you're already on a maintenance level of test....

 

[Cobra Strike]

Cobra (or anyone) what are your thoughts on blasting with the addition of an oral only? It'd essentially be an oral only cycle that everyone recommends against, but since you're already on a maintenance level of test....

That's a good question....I suppose you could do it as long as your libido wouldn't be sacrificed....I would up the test though to maximize the effects...someone with some personal experience might b able to answer that better

 

[thetruepitbull]

To keep things simple up the dose of Test to about 500mg/week.
Just make sure you have arimidex or aromasin.
And if you can get bloodwork, do so about 8 weeks in.