Blood test results, what shoud my test level be at? (wk 5 - test cyp only)

AlwaiizGaining

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So this is my first cycle I'm running test cypionate alone at 600mg per wk (300mg mon - 300mg thurs)

I got bloodwork done after week 5 and just got the results today:

testosterone: 1,600
estradiol: 20

Based on those numbers do you think my gear is bunk or underdosed? I thought my test would be higher after 5 weeks but this is my first run at it so I'm no expert, as far as my estrogen goes my doctor says i'm too low, should be more up around 21 - 25?

What do u guys think about bumping my dosage from 300mg ever monday and thursday to 350mg, to reach 700mg per wk? Would that be ok and do u think it would help?

Thanks bros!
 
Ya I guess at first I didn't have a full understanding of estrogen and how it worked, I just thought as soon as I got into week 3 it must be getting pretty high so i started taking my liquidex at .25 EOD right at week 3 before even noticing any symptoms.

I fucked up there.

I quit taking the liquidex as of yesterday so hopefully now it won't take too long to bounce up a little bit.

Any other opinions on my gear being "underdosed" or "g2g" would be appreciated.

Thanks boa.
 
I'm gonna add a question here instead of starting a new thread and looking like a dumbass lol hopefully somebody will see it...question is...

If I'm in week 6 of my test cyp cycle (600mg per wk) and plan on going for 15 weeks, can I add in Dbol at some point and if so what would be a low but effective dosage for a first time?

I see people using Dbol at the beginning of test cycles but not sure if i've ever seen one start dbol at week 6 or beyond.
 
AlwaiizGaining said:
I'm gonna add a question here instead of starting a new thread and looking like a dumbass lol hopefully somebody will see it...question is...

If I'm in week 6 of my test cyp cycle (600mg per wk) and plan on going for 15 weeks, can I add in Dbol at some point and if so what would be a low but effective dosage for a first time?

I see people using Dbol at the beginning of test cycles but not sure if i've ever seen one start dbol at week 6 or beyond.
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Many people run orals mid-cycle. A lot of people prefer to get the full benefit of them by using it when the longer estered injectables are fully kicked in. 30-40 mg a day is good to start. Most would recommend to not run dbol on a first cycle though. And 15 weeks is a little long.
 
AlwaiizGaining said:
So this is my first cycle I'm running test cypionate alone at 600mg per wk (300mg mon - 300mg thurs)

I got bloodwork done after week 5 and just got the results today:

testosterone: 1,600
estradiol: 20

Based on those numbers do you think my gear is bunk or underdosed? I thought my test would be higher after 5 weeks but this is my first run at it so I'm no expert, as far as my estrogen goes my doctor says i'm too low, should be more up around 21 - 25?

What do u guys think about bumping my dosage from 300mg ever monday and thursday to 350mg, to reach 700mg per wk? Would that be ok and do u think it would help?

Thanks bros!
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I'd say it's underdosed. There are guys in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum with the same levels on only 200mg of pharm grade cyp per week. Everyone is different but on 600mg of test your levels should be much higher.

I would definitely bump up the dosage because judging by your bloodwork your on a pretty mild cycle.


AlwaiizGaining said:
Ya I guess at first I didn't have a full understanding of estrogen and how it worked, I just thought as soon as I got into week 3 it must be getting pretty high so i started taking my liquidex at .25 EOD right at week 3 before even noticing any symptoms.

I fucked up there.

I quit taking the liquidex as of yesterday so hopefully now it won't take too long to bounce up a little bit.

Any other opinions on my gear being "underdosed" or "g2g" would be appreciated.

Thanks boa.
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I wouldn't cut out the liquidex completely because your estro isnt that low. It's only a little lower than what the guys on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) shoot for to have optimum health. Maybe lower it to .25 E3D. Or if you increase the dosage of test just keep it at .25 EOD and adjust as needed.

AlwaiizGaining said:
I'm gonna add a question here instead of starting a new thread and looking like a dumbass lol hopefully somebody will see it...question is...

If I'm in week 6 of my test cyp cycle (600mg per wk) and plan on going for 15 weeks, can I add in Dbol at some point and if so what would be a low but effective dosage for a first time?

I see people using Dbol at the beginning of test cycles but not sure if i've ever seen one start dbol at week 6 or beyond.
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There are many ways you could use the dbol. If your gunna do a 15 week cycle (which is awhile to be shut down) you could run it at the end up for a few weeks to keep making gains while the levels of test e are declining. Then start post cycle therapy (pct) the next day.
 
Your TT levels are absolutely low for 600mg a week but it will slightly depend on when you had bloods taken in relation to test inject. Now would be a good time to add dbol. Your test should be two to three times higher.

Your estro is slightly low. If using adex, it should be used eod due to it's long half life.
 
Just got my test results this morning.

Im on week 7 - 600 mg test per week with test prop kicker.

test was at >1500. Must only go that high so not sure what it is.
my estrogen was through the roof. Im taking adex at .5mg eod but it must be junk or not enough.
 
stiphy said:
Just got my test results this morning.

Im on week 7 - 600 mg test per week with test prop kicker.

test was at >1500. Must only go that high so not sure what it is.
my estrogen was through the roof. Im taking adex at .5mg eod but it must be junk or not enough.
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I'm hoping this is the case, maybe that's as high as the tests will read at some doctors offices, i'm going to go in and get the paperwork for myself because I got my results from the nurse over the phone and most the time they don't know what they're talking about they just read off the sheet.

THE-DET-OAK said:
when did you draw blood in relation to your last injection?
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I can't remember exactly and I don't have the physical paper work but I believe it was the day of my second injection of week 5 (300mg monday and 300mg thursday) so I got them done thursday ... here's a couple key factors OAK I'd appreciate you answering this....

I got my bloods done after 2 weeks and again this time after 5 and they read the same both times (1600s) ... is that normal?

When I got my blood drawn on that thursday of week 5 (day of injection) it was also after an extremely hard leg day and i may have lifted for a little too long (1.6 hours or so and I felt like I had diabetes for the next 2 days, VERY TIRED and craving sugar constanty)

I didn't think the timing of getting blood drawn in relation to time of last injection mattered for me since I am taking test cypionate and it's such a long ester.

Thank you very much bros for all the feedback so far I'm trying to figure out best I can if I got underdosed gear before I bring it to my dudes attention. If there's an optimum time frame when I should go have one more test then I'll do that first.
 
used rui last cycle. used someone else this cycle. can definetly tell a difference. BP is way up also, i asumme it has something to do with high estrogen.
 
AlwaiizGaining said:
I'm hoping this is the case, maybe that's as high as the tests will read at some doctors offices, i'm going to go in and get the paperwork for myself because I got my results from the nurse over the phone and most the time they don't know what they're talking about they just read off the sheet.



I can't remember exactly and I don't have the physical paper work but I believe it was the day of my second injection of week 5 (300mg monday and 300mg thursday) so I got them done thursday ... here's a couple key factors OAK I'd appreciate you answering this....

I got my bloods done after 2 weeks and again this time after 5 and they read the same both times (1600s) ... is that normal?

When I got my blood drawn on that thursday of week 5 (day of injection) it was also after an extremely hard leg day and i may have lifted for a little too long (1.6 hours or so and I felt like I had diabetes for the next 2 days, VERY TIRED and craving sugar constanty)

I didn't think the timing of getting blood drawn in relation to time of last injection mattered for me since I am taking test cypionate and it's such a long ester.

Thank you very much bros for all the feedback so far I'm trying to figure out best I can if I got underdosed gear before I bring it to my dudes attention. If there's an optimum time frame when I should go have one more test then I'll do that first.
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well your peak and your trough matter, although in this case i think the gear may be underdosed. your peak is the what your levels will be within 48 hours after the shot. your trough is where your levels are right before your next shot.

so the bigger the shot you take at once, the higher your levels will peak. it takes about 5 days to fall back to where they started to rise.


also estro conversion can be a problem, the more estrogen you make the less testosterone you will have, cause estrogen is made out of testosterone, it is the raw material for estrogen.

factor all this in and i rarely see a 5k TT levels. but yours should at least be 2500.
 
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Thanks OAK. I'm gonna' say you guys are right, my gear is underdosed. And the shitty part is that it's a test cyp 300mg per 1mL, but cyp usually always comes as 250mg per 1mL, so here I am thinking one CC is 300mg when in reality it's probably an underdosed 250 so as I've been thinking that I'm running 600mg per week it's probably more like 400 if that. Bummer, I know it's against all the rules but I've been all around on the forums and digging in with questions and all that but still have no clue as to what a good online source would be so if anybody wants to hit me with a PM and point me in the right direction that would be incredible cuz it's definately time for a new source.

Thanks bros. Just for shit's and giggles I'm going to go have my bloods done one more time in week 8, i'll do it on a wednesday - that's 2 days after mondays injection and one day before thursdays, I guess that's more for the peak then the trough but I can't test for the trough since that would be a sunday and the clinics aren't open then.

THANKS AGAIN BROS.
 
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