Call me stupid but doesn't it make more sense to stay on year around (low dose 100mg)

[Quickquestion]

This might be a stupid question but doesn't it make more sense to stay on year around and off cycle just stay on about 100mg/week or whatever keeps your body at the upper range of normal levels?? This might sound stupid but i'm just going by thoughts here.


Making your natural production stop/go/stop/go/stop/go in the long run seems like it actually might be less safe than just staying on year around

Again this might be an extremely stupid question and honestly just sparked my attention seeing it asked on a youtube video.

So everything would be the same but instead of doing PCT after you just lower the dosage to about 100mg a week or so (since natural levels produce around 40-100mg/week?) I understand it's obviously devoting to the needle but doesn't this actually seem like the safer option in the long run?

Call me stupid if you wish I probably am but I had to ask this question after seeing it.. The arguments in the youtube video comment section actually agreed with this idea so I was wondering what the experts think?

also greetings from a different forum! i'm new here! (didn't let me type the name? lol)

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome buddy,

Do u think the Chevy dealer s gonna let announce your a Ford guy ?

Your not asking a stupid question just putting forth the idea that u want to never not be on the needle. People not on trt are much better off coming off doing pct and then letting the body return to square. It s much healthier to allow your body to return to homeostasis and then see where blood s land.

I believe you may not know ( no offense) that 100 mg will turn off your HPTA as much as a full blown cycle. If I may---
Age ?
Cycles done ?

Please hang around..it s a very bunch of smart guy s here. I m a novice compared to a lot of vet s.
I ll bet my lil bitty left nut you ll learn more here than the other forum.

 

[Quickquestion]

Welcome buddy,

Do u think the Chevy dealer s gonna let announce your a Ford guy ?

Your not asking a stupid question just putting forth the idea that u want to never not be on the needle. People not on trt are much better off coming off doing pct and then letting the body return to square. It s much healthier to allow your body to return to homeostasis and then see where blood s land.

I believe you may not know ( no offense) that 100 mg will turn off your HPTA as much as a full blown cycle. If I may---
Age ?
Cycles done ?

Please hang around..it s a very bunch of smart guy s here. I m a novice compared to a lot of vet s.
I ll bet my lil bitty left nut you ll learn more here than the other forum.

I actually have not done any cycles and i'm fairly new to gear in general however i'm getting ready for my first cycle. i'm 26 with 4 years lifting. This was just out of curiosity I did know that 100mg would shut down your own production. This was actually on a video where Joe Rogan was talking about how he was on TRT and some guy in the comments said it's better to be on TRT when doing steroids because making your natural production stop/go was not healthy and apparently that the PCT drugs had long term side effects. But i'm guessing 100mg/week of test might as well? Not sure honestly. He also said that you could keep your test at the high lvl of the normal range this way which did make sense. Either way it was an interesting question. In short he was arguing that being on TRT was actually an advantage when it came to cycling haha

By the way if your avatar is recent and you are 51 that is INSANE. You make me look like crap and i'm in my prime haha.

 

[Teutonic]

Yeah dude...that s me 3-19 15..my b day 51.

In relation to the topic at hand , at 26 depending on ur bodyfat, muscle mass etc., I can t say go for it with a clear conscience as your so young. Do u know what your levels are TTest I mean ?

Please do not use gear instead of training, eating and resting enuff to grow.

Height ?
Weight ?
Est bodyfat ? ( my pic is like 11-13 percent if not more fat )

To many people think they can pin gear and everything will just happen...it will not.

I been doing this...more or less 31 years with time off for injuries, breaks, jail, overseas travel...but I go 5-6 times a week..injuries allowing...usually at 0415---0445 cardio, 45-60 minute weights...training...not f k n running my mouth...my partner and I been at it since 89 with years not seeing each other but you got to live this shit....not pin and pray. We go early so as to not be slowed down by some fuck on a bench texting or some dumb shit. When I walk out I m about to either puke...or I m hypo glycemic with a banana in the car to get me to a sustenance source.

Lecture over.

 

[omgmike1]

I don't get why u want to run only 100mg year round? If it's for muscle building purposes, then it's pointless.

It's only beneficial is u choose to run blasts through out the year. The only reason to go onto B.C phases is for constant mass, less hormone flucations, less stress on the body from PCT, costs less, easier to control hormones ect...

Trt is ment to just help people feel normal in the first place, it does provide a big advantage however in BB in terms of gear usage. The only thing is if u choose to go down this route u have to take a set up for health protocol. There is one thing to be not caring about health, then there is general well being health and then there is constant gear usage health check ups. It's a whole diff level as u must watch ur bloods and how ur body reacts. It's the cost for str and mass. Some find it worth it, others don't.

 

[Hypnotix]

If you're going to commit to competition, then there's almost no way around TRT. However, 100mg a week isn't the high range of normal.. not for most at least. Maybe 500ng/dl TT if you're lucky. If dunking a needle twice a week for life.. you'd at least want to get the most out of it and sit around 1000ng/dl TT, unless you're strictly doing it for well being.

Some are forced into TRT after a single cycle, some it may take 5, some never.. all depends.

If not making the commitment, and still looking to maintain your gains from a cycle, you'll just need to research and use your noggin! A well planned cycle and post cycle therapy is imperative to your success if going back to natural after every run, but it is very possible for some people. Stick around and read our sticky threads, they will explain everything you need to know and paint a picture for you.

 

[luckypaul]

It is way easier on trt and not having to run pct, but 26 is way young for that unless you have low t. Im 55 and enjoy the hell out of trt. Bummer though if you find yourself in a position where it is not readilly available, Jail for instance. Might take some time to score there, and expensive. Don't ask how I know

 

[ronrr]

pinning yourself year round would suck and i wouldnt wanna risk lowering my test lvl permanently and be stuck with trt

 

[luckypaul]

Yeah dude...that s me 3-19 15..my b day 51.

In relation to the topic at hand , at 26 depending on ur bodyfat, muscle mass etc., I can t say go for it with a clear conscience as your so young. Do u know what your levels are TTest I mean ?

Please do not use gear instead of training, eating and resting enuff to grow.

Height ?
Weight ?
Est bodyfat ? ( my pic is like 11-13 percent if not more fat )

To many people think they can pin gear and everything will just happen...it will not.

I been doing this...more or less 31 years with time off for injuries, breaks, jail, overseas travel...but I go 5-6 times a week..injuries allowing...usually at 0415---0445 cardio, 45-60 minute weights...training...not f k n running my mouth...my partner and I been at it since 89 with years not seeing each other but you got to live this shit....not pin and pray. We go early so as to not be slowed down by some fuck on a bench texting or some dumb shit. When I walk out I m about to either puke...or I m hypo glycemic with a banana in the car to get me to a sustenance source.

Lecture over.

What does your abb routine look like T.

 

[Teutonic]

I do SERIOUSLY don t do ab s more than say 2 a month. Now that I m old I can t lift enough weights to justify needing a belt...I use extremely proper form to avoid INJURY.

Feet planted when sitting . Back straight when doing over head movements. Perfect 90-110 degree tricep pushdowns...don t curl anything I can t w o moving my body at all....

But it ALL comes from the CORE. I squeeze my ass, flex my ab s to give my support and train.

Every, almost lift is an isometric ab movement.

Ab s are made in the kitchen, w aerobics...or 31 yr s of doing this and very physical sometimes punishing work with 18-26 pounds of "stuff" strapped, wrapped or hanging of me.

No lie...I detest abs...sure don t want or need them bigger.

 

[Onk]

agreed. TRT or natural training is slightly different, but I'd hate to make my abs larger whilst taking tren or something....though you don't gain ab muscle that quickly so you can just stop!