Can I make an changes to my shoulder routine to get stronger?

[mozzwigan]

What I'm getting at here is Iv'e seen low strength gains in my shoulder and they can sometimes hurt like hell,

Shall I try going a little heavier say 6-8 reps then 7-12 reps on shoulders? Will this get me stronger quicker? It's just something I need to work on, I only train once a week on the shoulders as follows:

3 sets: barbell shoulder press
3 sets: dumbbell press
3 sets: Up-Right row
3 sets: Lateral raises
3 sets: Shrugs

I do change the exercises every now and again but these are the main ones i target.

Any advice on getting strength up better will help. Iv'e had really really slow gains on my shoulders! Maybe it's my shoulder jeans they may SUCK! HAHA

 

[losieloos]

Maybe try adding more sets, doing negatives, super sets.that's how I got stronger and it takes time as well.

 

[Diced]

matee mateeeee, leave ur shoulders alone or be sure to do rotatar cuff exersises, youtube them . OR ull end up destroying ur shoulder . do not do that ^

 

[mozzwigan]

matee mateeeee, leave ur shoulders alone or be sure to do rotatar cuff exersises, youtube them . OR ull end up destroying ur shoulder . do not do that ^

Maybe your right at first when I started training for the first 3 months I used the smith machine it destroyed my shoulders big time every time I do certain exercises like up right row it hurts so bad like my joints are
Gonna come out of place, even when I don't train and do average things like moving stuff
About in the house I feel them burn up for no reason even lifting the lightest of things. But I want big shoulders :-(

 

[donjob]

x10 on the rotator cuff exercises. make sure you're not overtraining them as well, they are very small muscles. i don't understand guys who train chest or back for a an hour (which is good) and then shoulders for an hour on a seperate day. remember your shoulders are getting hit on chest day and back day, indirectly. i do shoulders and arms on the same day, shoulders take me maybe 15 minutes. i also quit doing overhead presses of any kind, especially barbell. always hurts my joints, feels very unnatural.

 

[mozzwigan]

x10 on the rotator cuff exercises. make sure you're not overtraining them as well, they are very small muscles. i don't understand guys who train chest or back for a an hour (which is good) and then shoulders for an hour on a seperate day. remember your shoulders are getting hit on chest day and back day, indirectly. i do shoulders and arms on the same day, shoulders take me maybe 15 minutes. i also quit doing overhead presses of any kind, especially barbell. always hurts my joints, feels very unnatural.

So what would a routine look like on shoulders?

 

[mapachi]

Diced matee mateeeee, leave ur shoulders alone or be sure to do rotatar cuff exersises, youtube them . OR ull end up destroying ur shoulder . do not do that ^

donjob x10 on the rotator cuff exercises. make sure you're not overtraining them as well, they are very small muscles. i don't understand guys who train chest or back for a an hour (which is good) and then shoulders for an hour on a seperate day. remember your shoulders are getting hit on chest day and back day, indirectly. i do shoulders and arms on the same day, shoulders take me maybe 15 minutes. i also quit doing overhead presses of any kind, especially barbell. always hurts my joints, feels very unnatura


These guys just gave you the best advice.
Most people wont listen to it, and then will double down on shoulder until they are screwed. Seen it 12´s of times

 

[Diced]

Yeah bro , listen shoulder growth will come with back/pec development. Just make sure u do ur rotater work and hit ur medial head probabaly on chest day !

 

[BigKentucky]

I just like to keep it simple...

I've sat under a smith machine before and done 25 sets straight...total blitz of the deltoid. Vary it up so you don't get into a routine !!

Hammer away bruddha !

 

[Diced]

I just like to keep it simple...

I've sat under a smith machine before and done 25 sets straight...total blitz of the deltoid. Vary it up so you don't get into a routine !!

Hammer away bruddha !

Every1 is built differently, Ive seen shoulder specialists, ive had my shoulder opperated on . Some people have great difficulty with thier shoulder joints . From what ive observed it tends to b people with long limbs they struggle with overhead lifts but in saying that it can be anyone my limbs arnt particularly long but overhead presses are just unnatural for me in saying that my shoulders r good size and i hardly do any overhead presses . Ive seen and i no bros with monster shoulders and they dont even have a shoulder day in thier routine they just do a few lat raises on chest day for example . anterior/posterior heads are both gettin enilated on chest/back day anyway .

 

[Harnold]

mozzwig,

do the rotator cuff exercises or you will live to regret it. you said you want stronger shoulders, but then you said you want bigger shoulders, well, my friend, that can be two completely different things. size does not always come with strength. sometimes it does.
personally, the best shoulder development I have ever gotten was concentrating on lateral dumbbell raises as well as bent over lateral raises for the rear delts. you don't need a lot of weight as with these exercises I find form is way more important. I confess I do overhead presses sometimes for three sets after my chest workout. if my chest workout was killer, I only do the laterals for shoulders. I actually prefer cables for my lateral raises, as I seem to get a better burn, and find it really brings out the definition between your shoulders and outer biceps, which looks great, especially with a tan...lol
in the end, I believe shoulders respond to less weight, a little higher reps, and good form, but that's just my 2cnts. hope this helps.
ps. a former pro bodybuilder from the eighties and nineties by the name of Gary Strydom used to swear by an exercise that was an upright row, but with lighter weight, and you take about a shoulder or little wider grip on them. he claimed to add great width to his delts with this exercise. try it, it works, you can feel it. go light though.