Can you take Aromasin EOD like Arimidex..

[RA64]

I understand the studies and believe me everybody is different. Aromasin being a suicide inhibitor kills aromatase. Its second strongest to Letrozole but still it packs a whallop. Having one's aromatase being completely shutdown certainly holds risks in the balance of proper amounts of estrogen in body. Granted the studies show that ideally 25 mgs ed is ideal but it all depends on the situation and the person. I should have clarified that in my last post. Nevertheless you are correct in pointing out the clinical studies to rebut my post. However, I have seen cases where someone takes aromasin - 25 mgs ed and they have bottomed out with estrogen and their libido was in the toilet. Just saying everyone is different. There is no exact science to dosing any AAS or ancillaries. We can only go by how our body reacts as a measuring stick.

^Agree

Controlling E2 is hard as hell, and finding the sweet spot is even harder.

E2 is like a cork bobbing up and down in the water sometimes it's on top of the water sometimes it's below the water.
I have been trying something new, and that is letting the E2 bob up and down, and not worrying about it unless it gets too high or too low, then I make adjustments, based on how my body feels.
This method has worked well for me.

 

[RA64]

Welcome back Chip.
Glad to see the Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) business is still alive and well.

 

[dave@maximushrt.com]

Estrogen

^Agree

Controlling E2 is hard as hell, and finding the sweet spot is even harder.

E2 is like a cork bobbing up and down in the water sometimes it's on top of the water sometimes it's below the water.
I have been trying something new, and that is letting the E2 bob up and down, and not worrying about it unless it gets too high or too low, then I make adjustments, based on how my body feels.
This method has worked well for me.

Estrogen is like broken glass you get cut before you see it. It's amazing how quickly your world can turned upside down.

 

[djm6464]

Aromasin everyday is asking for a complete estrogen crash and libido shutdown. Its way too powerful to subject your body to 25 mgs ed or even 12.5 mgs ed for that matter. Estrogen is a bugger. It by far- is the toughest hormone to control and once out of control it - either too high or too low and your world can be turned upside down. The key is too start off with low doses and see how body reacts. You must be intuitive and be cognizant of your body's response. Taking 12.5 mgs eod is better approach. Remember estrogen is necessary for libido, promoting IGF-1, and gains. You must allow estrogen to balance everything off. Homeostasis is the key to any success in any cycle. Without it you will be in constant chaos.

this makes alot of sense......do you take cough syrup if you dont have a sore throat? its better to start low and go from there, with pretty much every compound...
estrogen is made up to be this evil thing, when in fact some is important to keep a balance as dave stated.....
btw whats doing big man!

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

Dave, will you please remove your lats from this website.... You are eclipsing the ENTIRE INTERNET!! lol

 

[dave@maximushrt.com]

Dave, will you please remove your lats from this website.... You are eclipsing the ENTIRE INTERNET!! lol

Lol! Sorry.

 

[CenturionHRT]

Bottom line any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) can decrease estrogen to much if you are not careful. Each person's protocol may be slightly different. I've found that for me 12.5 MG ED is perfect...

I used Adex at one time before switching to Aromasin. I also dosed that ED. I prefer to dose ED to keep blood levels more stable.

I switched to Aromasin because it is easier on the liver, lowers SHBG and found that it improves my complexion. I dont know why my complexion is better on Aromasin but many people report the same. My skin is less oily and pimple outbreaks are much less. Since it is easier on the liver its better for long term use and general health.

Many people report that Letro reduces their estrogen way to much... Some say you just need to find the right amount and dosage frequency. Still it negatively effects your liver more then aromasin does.

Really any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will work...You just need to figure out the correct dose and dosage frequency for YOU.

 

[Epic Ed]

Chip! Good to see you back in da house and it looks like you brought along a friend. Actually, I'm thrilled to see several of you Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) guys on here and contributing. Your experience is invaluable to all of us and I hope you'll continue to contribute on these kind of topics.

I have crashed my E2 before, and like has been mentioned, it's not pretty. I suppose in retrospect I can consider my self one of the lucky guys because I managed to crash it by running Adex, which means my E2 levels while on cycle must be reasonably easy to control. I'd have to agree that this kind of stuff is all very dependent on the individual and part of playing this game is simply going to involve experimentation. You have to get to know what works for you and make logical, educated adjustments when necessary. In the case of AI's it's good to know where each of them is positioned on the "effectiveness" scale so that if adjusting dose with one doesn't cut it, you'll know which direction to head if you need to try something stronger or more mild.

Thanks for all the input, guys.

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

Thanks for the welcome back ed! I will be holding an official "welcome me back" party, (lol) coming soon to a "thread near you".... In the near future! I'm just waiting for a couple more of my soldiers dial in. Hope ur doing good, chief!!!

 

[tyson700]

can i only use Aromasin as post cycle therapy (pct) alone ?

 

[babyface58]

So I got some liquid Aromasin and it didn't come with a measuring syringe... I'm going to start taking 12.5 mg. every day and see how that works for me.

It's like a purple liquid that I got from a research company.

I've an insulin syringe that I tore the needle off so I can use that to measure the mg.

HERE'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED THOUGH...

I'm RETARDED with math. So the bottle says 600mg, 60 mL.

So how many mL would I need to draw up to get 12.5mg?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

are you sure thats right? that would be 10mg/ml but its usually dosed at 25mg/ml

dude im telling you, you need more than 12.5mg ED. you need 25mg ED. eveyone says how strong aromasin is-its not

your E levels are ridiculously high. 25mg ED kept estro in normal range for men not taking any test. i can post the study if you like

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

everyon is always jumping on the band wagon of " dont use too much Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you will destroy your E levels and want to kill yourself"

#1 low e levels are not that bad and are fixed much easier than high levels
# 2 it rarely happens, driving E levels too low
# 3 I would much rather have low E levels than E levels in that are way too high

 

[babyface58]

are you sure thats right? that would be 10mg/ml but its usually dosed at 25mg/ml

dude im telling you, you need more than 12.5mg ED. you need 25mg ED. eveyone says how strong aromasin is-its not

your E levels are ridiculously high. 25mg ED kept estro in normal range for men not taking any test. i can post the study if you like

Yeah it seems that would be 10mg/ml.

So basically I'd take a standard 1mL insulin syringe and fill it 2.5 times to take the 25mg dose.

Does that sound right?

And I agree for sure I'd rather crash my E levels than have them above 200 like they were.

Apparently that's what gave me all my acne sides and fuckin wrecked my back with cysts. Still pisses me off. But hopefully taking this daily will finally get everything under control.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Yeah it seems that would be 10mg/ml.

So basically I'd take a standard 1mL insulin syringe and fill it 2.5 times to take the 25mg dose.

Does that sound right?

And I agree for sure I'd rather crash my E levels than have them above 200 like they were.

Apparently that's what gave me all my acne sides and fuckin wrecked my back with cysts. Still pisses me off. But hopefully taking this daily will finally get everything under control.

If its 10mg/ml then yea 2.5ml is what you need.

Ive only seen aromasin dosed at 25mg/ml but that dont matter someone may make that dose. just be sure that is what it is dosed at. since aromasin is a suicidal Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when you get over 25mg ED thats when it can kill estro. 25mg is the perfect dose.

 

[babyface58]

Yeah it says 600mg, 60mL right on the bottle so I guess it is 10mg/ml

Thanks I'll start dosing this way starting today.

If its 10mg/ml then yea 2.5ml is what you need.

Ive only seen aromasin dosed at 25mg/ml but that dont matter someone may make that dose. just be sure that is what it is dosed at. since aromasin is a suicidal Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when you get over 25mg ED thats when it can kill estro. 25mg is the perfect dose.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

no problem man-sounds good

it will take a full week to reach peak inhibition with aromasin. thats when you should start to notice less oily skin. new acne should not pop up much after a week. but it will take 3 good weeks to see marked improvement in acne. this will give time for existing cysts to go away.

 

[workoutfreak078]

dude im telling you, you need more than 12.5mg ED. you need 25mg ED. eveyone says how strong aromasin is-its not

your E levels are ridiculously high. 25mg ED kept estro in normal range for men not taking any test. i can post the study if you like

This is opinion. There are so many studies done that agree with this, and so many that disagree. Just as everyone said, it is based on the person. Last cycle I took 12.5mg ED of Aromasin and it completely crushed my estrogen. I had no libido and I felt like crap. It sucked. The article that Chip posted I have read recently at another forum. Based on that article, I am going to run 12.5mg E4D of Aromasin and see how that goes.

The half-life of Aromasin is only 8.9 hours in men. The 27 hour half-life is based on women. Since Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor it completely eliminates the estrogen, so dosing it ED is pretty extreme. I would rather people not find out the hard way. It would be better to dose it further apart at a lower dose, and adjust from there.