Alpin
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I have No idea what the HDROL stack is. So i can't advise you on that.
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I have No idea what the HDROL stack is. So i can't advise you on that.
Metalman69
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I'm running halo extreme with my trt right now, the only downside I would say is that you may confuse the way it makes you feel with your trt not working. Expect back cramps, general lethargy, and tiredness with the halo. This is my second time using it, on week 4. If your doc is checking liver values be prepared to say you're taking a lot of Tylenol for a sore back. You may want to wait until you have trt dose dialed in first before using. It makes it tough at doc visit when they suspiciously comment on how big you are getting... Good luck
Captain America
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Guys I need your help!!!! (blood work was done exactly 48hrs after injection)
I got my blood work back from labcorp and my peak TT is 943! My Estradiol (Non-sensitive assay) is 53.6. I go in for blood work on Wednesday to check trough TT. If my test is over 700 the Dr is surely going to lower my dose which I do not want. I'm just starting to feel really good and I don't want them to mess with it. I am 99.9% sure the Dr will not treat the symptoms, but rather the number because of strict hospital guidelines regarding TRT.
Anything I can do between now and then to make sure I fall in that range or do I just let it ride?
I got my blood work back from labcorp and my peak TT is 943! My Estradiol (Non-sensitive assay) is 53.6. I go in for blood work on Wednesday to check trough TT. If my test is over 700 the Dr is surely going to lower my dose which I do not want. I'm just starting to feel really good and I don't want them to mess with it. I am 99.9% sure the Dr will not treat the symptoms, but rather the number because of strict hospital guidelines regarding TRT.
Anything I can do between now and then to make sure I fall in that range or do I just let it ride?
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Captain America
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I've also been taking 10,000I.U. of vitamin D, so I'll drop that for the time being. I don't want to take an AI yet because I'm going to ask the Endo to check estradiol on Wednesday. In your guys experience will I be in 500-700 range by Wednesday. I know everyone is different, but for those who have had many blood tests where you checked peak and trough how much of fluctuation is expected?
Megatron28
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Just do not do another injection between now and your appt. You will be close to 700ng/dl.
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jomamma007
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give it at least 4-6 weeks before you judge.
It can take months to feel the full effects.
Some guys feel it the same day, me personally it was a gradual effect.
Just noticed after a while that I was feeling better and things started working again.
Good luck and keep us posted with bloods.
It can take months to feel the full effects.
Some guys feel it the same day, me personally it was a gradual effect.
Just noticed after a while that I was feeling better and things started working again.
Good luck and keep us posted with bloods.
Captain America
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Thanks. That is pretty much how it has felt for me too. Gradually feeling better. For example....my porch light has been out for months and I've been too lazy to fix it. The bed of my truck has been loaded with bags of plastic bottles for a couple months because I was to lazy to take them to the recycle yard.
Well last night when I got home from the gym, I went outside and replaced the bulbs on my porch lights. Then I took apart the fixture and cleaned all of the bugs and webs off of it and put it back. Thus morning after the gym I took the bottles in and got my $50. Then after that I cleaned up about 3 weeks of dog shit in the yard that I've been to lazy to do.
May sound silly, but that is how I know I'm starting to feel really good.
jomamma007
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and it's just the beginning :0. Now go buy some cialis from the site sponsor with that $50 and really go HARD
Captain America
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and it's just the beginning :0. Now go buy some cialis from the site sponsor with that $50 and really go HARD
Already did brother and I have a script for it also.
Captain America
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I didn't even think it was possible, but I got the results from my trough test. My TT was @ 247. Dr's office called and wanted to make sure I was taking the injections once a week. I said yes. Now the dr wants another test to check peak, so I have to go on Saturday for more blood work.
Alpin
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247 sucks better fix that. How many days from shot is this 247?
Captain America
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I was @ 943 at peak (48 hrs after inj.) And 247 at trough. Megatron thought I would be closer to 700 trough. I didn't think it could drop 700 points over 5 days.
Captain America
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7 days
Alpin
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Ok.
How bout 50 mg E3.5D ?
But it requires 2 jabs a week. You could do it briefly by trying it for a month and look at peak and trough TT and Estradiol.
Captain America
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I'm going to wait and see what the peak results are from this Saturdays blood work. Then see what my Endo says and at that point I'll suggest splitting the dose. I can honestly say I don't feel any different 2 days after injection vs 7 days after. I was really shocked to see the test so low because I'very been feeling really good.
Note: I did mention to the nurse that I checked peak levels with lab corp and it was at 943. She said she would let the dr know, but she wanted the bloods 72 hrs after injection, which is also what I've seen Dr Crisler does.
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Alpin
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Keep in mind exogenous Testosterone lowers SHBG!!!
Lower SHBG means there is way more T that is "bio available".
I had a TT 597 trough on TRT a while back and the "bio available" was at the top of the range!!!!
That's why you probably feel good.
If you were natty with that 247 level....
You probably be singing a different tune!!!
If you are on adex it will lower SHBG even more mind you.
Adex is not something you want to play around with if you don't need it.
Whats Estradiol peak and trough?
If you feel ok every 7 days leave it. Less scar tissue.
Alpin
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That Estradiol is high. That's 196.7 pmol/l in Canada.
I like to keep mine below 134 pmol/l...(36.5 pg/ml)
Last time my estradiol came in at 340 pmol/l when first hoping on TRT and doing E7D shots...small doses of HCG too.
I had panic attacks. I lowered my doses and split everything up. Felt a lot better.
Captain America
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I asked if I could get estradiol checked Saturday and the nurse said she would ask the dr, but she didn't know if she would. If she doesn't I'll have it checked on my own. I know there are other reasons to keep estradiol in check, but I have never even had a hint of Gyno ever. Even when I was hung and dumb and taking as much as a gram of test I never had itchy nips, or anything.
I have adex on hand, but if it comes to needing it I would rather have it prescribed by the dr. I hope to get this dialed in soon.
Alpin
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No anxiety, insomnia first few days after shot?
Your probably fairy lean??
I guess you are more tolerant of higher estradiol.
Helps having higher T as well.
Captain America
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No anxiety or insomnia. Actually 3 weeks ago I had a Dexa-scan and I'm 28% bodyfat. I'm currently working with 3j, but I think a large part of my bodyfat being so high was the low testosterone.
