Combat Sides - Adjust Test/Deca Cycle 4 Weeks In?

[Equinob]

On the 4th week of my 2nd bulk cycle.

36 6'2" 200
400mg Test Cyp
400mg Deca

Not running any AIs as I had no problem with my first 8 week Test E.

However, this time I am experiencing some minor bloat. Does this make sense between E & Cyp? Don't really want to take arimidex, unless I have to, but have access to some if it doesn't sort itself out.

In addition, I believe I am experiencing some minor reaction to the Deca. So I've ordered some Dostinex and have been controlling the nipple sensitivity with B6, confirming these sides are directly related to the Deca. But this has done nothing for my diminished libido. So, a couple of questions about how to fix it (for now I've got Viagra).

1) will the Dostinex take care of everything on my current doses or do I need to increase my Test as well?

2) is there any benefit to increasing my Test once I start taking the Dostinex? I really don't want to have to spend the money on another bottle to up the Cyp to 500mg/week for the remaining 10 weeks, and can't really afford to raise it more than that. So the question is, would the extra 100mg/week be worth my money at this point in gains to help offset sexual sides if I will already be taking Dostinex? I'm sort of concerned about changing my hormonal balance by adding more test halfway into it, and risking more sides.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

imo i would increase my test to 500mg/week add the dostinex for deca sides and keep your estrogen under control with arimidex,and probably if your estrogen is high,that might be whats causing your deca sides,usually if you keep your estrogen controlled,you wont have any deca problems if you use enough test to deca ratio

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if your estrogen is high,that might be whats causing your deca sides

^^^^^^^^

 

[Equinob]

Bullseye, good to know. I wasn't expecting my Estorgen to be high after my Test E cycle, but I guess Cyp is different?

I'm assuming the nipple sensitivity is prolactin related based on the B6 relieving it. Either way, it sounds like I should take both just to be on the safe side, especially since I can't really tell how much water rentiontion I'm having.

ALSO - I miscalculated. It's a 10ml bottle of Cyp (200mg/ml) so I would actually be upping my Cyp to 600mg/week over the last 10 weeks. I'm assuming that should make a major difference in my gains, but a little nervous about upping my gear to 1000mg/week.

Guessing with the arimidex and Dostinex, it shouldn't matter. Assume the extra Test will improve my gains as well and help get me back to my horny old self? I know you guys prefer a test heavy stack with Deca, but I also have to consider the benefits over the cash I'm gonna have to layout. If I'm controlling the sides, is it really worth it to up the Cyp 200mg/week and possibly deal with more sides?

Thanks guys!

 

[Cobra Strike]

I would bump the test to 600 but thats just me....good advice bullseye!!

 

[UserAt204]

And you don't have to take an extra ml. Take half which is 100mg. Easy math. Control the estro and add the caber. Cyp and ensnthate aren't really different but your body can respond slightly different to every cycle and deca and test are know to cause bloat based on diet, estro, etc.

 

[Equinob]

And you don't have to take an extra ml. Take half which is 100mg. Easy math. .

Thanks. It seems like the consensus is that I will get my money's worth to up the Test either way, without too many negative effects.

Math is easy, but I was basing on buying another 10ml bottle which is 2000mg divided by 10 remaining weeks. Otherwise I have 1000mg left over at the end. I could always do one more week after I stop the 400 mg Deca, and go from 600mg Test to a final week of 1000mg Test only, then start my PCT two weeks later?

 

[DADAWG]

define sides bro
a little bloat without gyno symptoms that doesnt raise blood pressure is perfectly fine. just keep a eye on blood pressure and gyno.

 

[Equinob]

define sides bro

After the first week I saw some minor bloat. Has stayed fairly constant since. Not too bad and doesn't seem to be getting worse.

About two weeks in my nipples started getting sensitive. Then tingly. The tips turned white and were hard all the time, and started to get sore. Since I didn't see is on Test E, I turned to 200mg B6/day, this dialed the symptoms back, but ehy would return mid-day and In the morning, so I upped the dose to 600mg taken throughout the day and that seems to have returned them almost to normal. Still some tenderness, but nothing like before.

Also, my libido started to crash after the first week. Just not interested in sex 4 weeks in and need Viagra to stay up.

As for BP, it seems to fluctuate throughout the day. There are times where I feel swollen, and mostly where everything is fine. I am having occasional night sweats and I can feel my heart pounding (not racing) at various times throughout the day, especially at night, and particularly if I've had a few drinks on my cheat day, which also has higher fat and salt intake as well.

 

[UserAt204]

If your libido is crashing it's most likely high estro but deca can cause this as well thru prolactin but most times you won't have prolactin issues if estro is controlled but everyone is different.

 

[DADAWG]

it might be a good idea to throw in .25 mg of adex a day or 12.5 mg of aromasin a day but its your call .

 

[Hcc5881]

Test e and test c aren't really different. You probably Had estrogen in your first cycle but maybe you didn't experience much bloat. Now you are taking two compounds that can cause bloating and the estrogen from the test is synergenically helping the deca cause bloat. The two combined equals bloating. Control your estrogen then the prog sides.

 

[Hcc5881]

Esters DON'T cause bloat.

 

[Equinob]

Starting Adex, but even before sides have noticeably dropped, except my low libido. I'm up 20 lbs since I started, have no idea how much of that is water.

Still going to up my Test from 400mg to 600mg as recommended. My source doesn't have any Cyp on hand this week. I'm going into my 6th week (out of 15). Instead he offered Sustanon. Was hoping to up my test next week. Does it make sense to add 200mg Sustanon (sust) to my cycle at this point or just wait and add the Cyp when he gets it? Even though it's all Test it seems like it's adding unnecessary complexity mid-cycle.

 

[kevin2590]

I started deca 250 every week and testogel 50 mg 5 days 250mg 3 weeks ago and still have 7 weeks left. i just started feeling sensitivity around the nipple area so i was wondering if that was normal or should i start taking liquidex or letro and if i should, what dosage would you guys recommend i take. Please advice. thanks