Coming off tren ace and first time using masteron

U should try a lower dose of tren next time like 50mg/day. Less is more in this case. No need for 100 mg/day as u found out. Maybe down the road as tolerance builds....

Who told u that ??? lol

Synergetic ..you sound like u be having an ed u ma cation son.

Tren s badass. 100 a day...wow
 
I wont tell u how much ive taken
Soldier s a good man w a family and when he asked me how much to start w I said 50 e o d to start and he s cut up and look s right.

I ve seen u Beast Mode Man.

Good luck tomorrow please let me know what you totaled and what not.
 
I started with 50mg test p 50 mg tren ace eod then increased it to both at 100mg ed endurance got worse I actually felt like it was killing my strength. I'm sure halo will fix that.

so 700mg week test P and tren A oh shit... maybe your E2 was too much then you loose strength for sure. Test is better to run TRT dose with tren
 
I thought about adding in some deca for my cruise but I'm worried about getting deca dick as I was only planning on running 250mg test per week

if you use an AI properly, why are you getting "deca dick"? That's due to high prolactin or high estrogen...the antithesis of proper AI usage.
 
I've never gotten it before I'm just worried about getting it. I thought you could get it while still using an AI. Damn your making me wish I wouldve ordered some oh well maybe next month...
 
I've never gotten it before I'm just worried about getting it. I thought you could get it while still using an AI. Damn your making me wish I wouldve ordered some oh well maybe next month...

no sir, it's all poor AI use and in extreme cases, people not using a dopamine agonist as well as their AI. deca is the bomb, but you have to be patient with it
 
If I wasn't competing, I'd never touch Tren for as long as I live...

I plan on only running one more Tren cycle, and that's before my final show next May, even then this will be run conservatively starting at 50mg ED rising to no more than 90mg ED. For me the rewards aren't worth the sides - and I have no doubt that the long term effects on the body are severe.

After May, I'll be sticking to Test, medicinal Deca and Mast - and if/when I blast I will simply raise the dosages.

I like they way that trio of compounds make me look, feel and perform. And if I'm feeling good, the world, and the gym, are better places!

It makes me shudder when I hear just your regular gym users bragging about the volume of hardcore drugs that they take but then mock and ridicule people for promoting high quality training ethics and nutritional protocols...

Is life, and more importantly, quality of life - really that cheap and worthless?
 
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I did not know that high e2 would cause me to lose strength ???!!!

Please enlighten me with your wisdom kind sage so that I may be able to spread ur word to the masses...

I quess being on a gram of test w no e2 control or even knowing w t f they were, was why 600 was all I could pull at 198. If u d been there think of the possibilities !!!!
 
Been there done that uping the dose helped endurance a little bit more but no matter what tren is still going to hurt you at any dose. All I had was 3 vials of test p tren ace mixed together so I couldn't run one higher than the other but I will buy them separately next time so I can run the test higher.

No. U seem to have missed my point . I mean try running 50mg/day TREN ace the entire blast next time with your test base dose whatever u make that. Instead of changing or upping the dose throughout. This could be a good tren experience for you with diet and training up to par as well. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!!
 
again, very different. even pinning 1-1.5g of mast you won't get anything like 300mg of tren's anabolism. tren is great, if you can handle the sides. If not, and not competing, better get good with primo, deca, var

Onk can you please expand on the last sentence?
Just to clarify..... run your test and switch between primo and deca and use var when on primo? Or do you mean run test primo and deca together and the var?
 
If I wasn't competing, I'd never touch Tren for as long as I live...

I plan on only running one more Tren cycle, and that's before my final show next May, even then this will be run conservatively starting at 50mg ED rising to no more than 90mg ED. For me the rewards aren't worth the sides - and I have no doubt that the long term effects on the body are severe.

After May, I'll be sticking to Test, medicinal Deca and Mast - and if/when I blast I will simply raise the dosages.

I like they way that trio of compounds make me look, feel and perform. And if I'm feeling good, the world, and the gym, are better places!

It makes me shudder when I hear just your regular gym users bragging about the volume of hardcore drugs that they take but then mock and ridicule people for promoting high quality training ethics and nutritional protocols...

Is life, and more importantly, quality of life - really that cheap and worthless?

Ben what does medicinal deca and masteron look like as dosage?
 
Onk can you please expand on the last sentence?
Just to clarify..... run your test and switch between primo and deca and use var when on primo? Or do you mean run test primo and deca together and the var?

Sure, no problem.

Aside from tren, which is hands down the best mass builder, there's only a few key compounds you can use to build mass.

Some of them are orals you need to switch in and out of, because they can only be used temporarily, such as dbol, drol, sdrol and halo. I've used all and without a doubt sdrol wins in my book, though dbol is 2nd, I just hate to up my AI and run nolva with it....to be sure I never get close to gyno.

Whereas, the injectable mass builders (still excluding tren here), can be ran for a much longer period of time. Deca and primo are two that can be run for a good 20 weeks easily with no real issues. I would include EQ in that list, if I thought it was worth it...however I don't like EQ. Last time I ran it at 1.2g for 20 weeks and feel I would've gotten more out of 800mg deca/wk.

Var as well, good for strength and as a DHT works well with the likes of deca, and can be run for 8 weeks which is a decent period for a strength drug that also helps with some cutting effects.

As for your last question, I see it as being quite normal to run primo and deca together (19-nor + DHT = good times), however you'll be pinning a lot of product. Primo I'd go for a good 750-900mg/wk - so that's 5-6ml right there - plus deca at 800, that's another 3-4ml depending on your concentration. That's 10ml + your test! Seems too much to me.

So what I'd do is run primo and test both at 1g each, then drop me test back to cruise at 250mg/wk and then run deca at 1g, run 15 weeks of each (30 weeks total) and then I have 12 weeks where I'm cutting again for my next lot of contests. Year complete :)
 
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Ben what does medicinal deca and masteron look like as dosage?

medicinal deca is 200-250mg a week, that's enough for the synovial fluids to help your joints.
medicinal mast at 200mg a week, as that's enough to lower SHBG
 
If I wasn't competing, I'd never touch Tren for as long as I live...

I plan on only running one more Tren cycle, and that's before my final show next May, even then this will be run conservatively starting at 50mg ED rising to no more than 90mg ED. For me the rewards aren't worth the sides - and I have no doubt that the long term effects on the body are severe.

After May, I'll be sticking to Test, medicinal Deca and Mast - and if/when I blast I will simply raise the dosages.

I like they way that trio of compounds make me look, feel and perform. And if I'm feeling good, the world, and the gym, are better places!

It makes me shudder when I hear just your regular gym users bragging about the volume of hardcore drugs that they take but then mock and ridicule people for promoting high quality training ethics and nutritional protocols...

Is life, and more importantly, quality of life - really that cheap and worthless?

Your such a drama queen
 
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