Crashing

jerhendr2203

New member
Ok, so I'm on protocol and have been for about 3 months now, my last blood work (4-5 weeks ago I think) didn't show any abnormal changes, Doc dropped me from 1mg of Anastrozole EOD to .5 EOD, but lately I've had a crash in energy levels, very lethargic, NO libido, increase in body acne. I had blood taken Last Friday, won't know the results for a couple more days, but anyone agree with me that my E2 levels have shot up? Any other causes? Stress levels remain low, mood swings are pretty much non-existent
 
lately I've had a crash in energy levels, very lethargic, NO libido, increase in body acne.
I had the low energy and lethargy issues when my estrogen was high. Although, libido was fine and acne was not an issue. Of course, everbody is different.

anyone agree with me that my E2 levels have shot up?
Only bloodwork will tell

Any other causes?
There are other causes of the symptoms you mention but timing seems to indicate the medication change is your culprit.
 
Bro, you are a big, thick dude, with a body type very similar to mine. I'm guessing that you are probably right on the mark and that the estrogen has spiked a bit. This is NOT medical advice, but if it were me, personally, I'd take 1mg of Anastrozol daily for 7 days to reduce your levels. I wouldn't forsee you crashing your estrogen in that short period of time and even if you did, I'd bet that you are very estrogen sensitive and would rebound within days. Again, this advice does not come from MAXIMUS Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) or our doctors, simply from myself as a fellow poster. Good luck.
 
Hey jerhendr - curious, what did your blood tests show? Did you increase Anastrozol for a week? How'd things work out?
 
good to know. im heading into my 4th week on cycle (test c @ 600mg week) and for the past 3 days i have been sooooo tired and dont want to do anything, however i hear low estrogen can cause same problems as high estrogen so i dont know if i should up my arimidex or lay off...
 
Hey jerhendr - curious, what did your blood tests show? Did you increase Anastrozol for a week? How'd things work out?

Dont know the exact levels as I had to reschedule my appointment for this Friday, but Im going on 2 weeks of 1mg/day, and energy levels are coming back, and libido is coming back a little slower, Im interested to see where they were, Ill update Friday!!!
 
Cool - thanks bro, it'll be interesting to know where you are. And how much you decide works out as an ongoing dose once levels are in order. Getting estrogen dialed in has been tricky for me. Crashed it a few times so now a little paranoid about dropping it too low.

I think I'm one of those folks that can't seem to find a sweet spot with anastrozol for whatever reason so giving aromasin a try (think it should arrive this week).
 
Cool - thanks bro, it'll be interesting to know where you are. And how much you decide works out as an ongoing dose once levels are in order. Getting estrogen dialed in has been tricky for me. Crashed it a few times so now a little paranoid about dropping it too low.

I think I'm one of those folks that can't seem to find a sweet spot with anastrozol for whatever reason so giving aromasin a try (think it should arrive this week).

i had this same prob the last time when i was younger on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), about 10 years ago, (nuts got kicked into my throat by some chick, and stopped producing, weird but painful!!)
got my numbers up and steady, and slowly had myself taken off testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), because i was too young to be a cushion!

i could never get myself dialed in either, so this time around went with aro, and so far it has been very very good to me, crashed my e2 once, within the last 2 months, but went off completely for a week or two then it was fine, started up again a week or so again and still g2g!

aro is easier way (for me, and possibly you as well) to handle e2, anastrozole, is hit or miss, and one needs to be very keen to e2 effects in order to know when to up it, and when to back it down, very tiring a lot of times, and may lead to a lot of frustration

good luck, ask in a thread about aro, a lot of peeps use it!
 
Agreed with Chip....and others..as a certified headcase keeping my estro in check play s as much of a part of my sanity mood libido..as does the test augmentation....duh huh ?

As a personal preference I m an aromasine guy..12.5 eod to ed works..my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is 200 mg test c on Sundays...
 
Teutonic, what made you go with the aromasin? I'm on anastrozol right now with Chip and he's still getting me dialed in. I wonder if I'd have better luck with aromasin.
 
Dont know the exact levels as I had to reschedule my appointment for this Friday, but Im going on 2 weeks of 1mg/day, and energy levels are coming back, and libido is coming back a little slower, Im interested to see where they were, Ill update Friday!!!

That would Definitely be good subjective evidence for your Estrogen being high! Look forward to your update.
 
Teutonic, what made you go with the aromasin? I'm on anastrozol right now with Chip and he's still getting me dialed in. I wonder if I'd have better luck with aromasin.

What are your issues with Arimidex? Is it uust not working for you or are you experiencing sides? If it's Arimidex sides, due pursue the Aromasin.
 
Thanks j2048b and teutonic for your thoughts.

So, j2048b, how much do you take? BTW - sorry bout the nuts bro!

EVERYONES BODIES ARE DIFFERENT IN THE WAY THEY CONVERT TEST TO ESTRO, AND THROW IN Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) AND U HAVE MORE ESTRO, SOOOO...
(want to make sure everyone knows this before i explain how much i take, when and why)

well, i started by taking 1/2 a pill mond/wed/fri/ but by the third week or so, it was too much, CRASHED ME E2!!

so i chatted with a few other knowledgeable guys on here and decided to go without any Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for a duration of two weeks to see how it went, and by the second week, had to pop a 1/2 a pill, and another by the end of that week, so lately it has been 1/2 a tab on tuesdays and 1/2 a tab on fridays, but this week i did my test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the same day, different pinning locations, and popped 1 whole pill to see how it effects ME,

so freaking far! so freaking goooooddd!! HORNY AS A GOAT TOAD, WANTING TO DESTROY EVERY VAG IN VAGLAND, AS WE SPEAK!!


to be completly honest,

(THIS IS FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE AND THEREFORE DOES NOT REFLECT ON EITHER MAXIMUS NOR ITS DOCS, OR ANYTHING ELSE!!!)

AND IT IS ALSO SPEAKING ON AROMASIN FROM MY STANDPOINT:)

just a disclaimer before i go into MY own details!

i was on hrt/trt when i was younger, NUT ISSUE (thanks DM!! for the sorries!, )

(now almost 34, here in a few weeks) and i was always told to not even run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the first 4 weeks to find out how much conversion the test is making, you see every one is different, and their aromotization is different, so if u dont actually wait to see how much is actually converting, then how much do u really need Aromatase inhibitor (AI) wise?

then once one knows how much their test is converting to e2, then gauge from there, until u throw in Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a week or two later once estro is stable, then u have to go back to the drawing board to find out how much both test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) are increasing your estro!

it is hit or miss, unless u really understand how much of the test alone is converting and how much ur Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is causing e2 spikes as well, once this whole picture is understood, then one can gauge how much of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is needed in order to get their e2 to a stable , low , apprepriate number!

so this week, it was 1 whole pill, and i will see how it goes by friday?

so far ive had enormous hard, morning wood all week long, which is a good sign of getitng the e2 in check! once that morning wood starts to go away, then the e2 is creaping back up, OR is too low, then one needs to see where their Aromatase inhibitor (AI) doseage is at and adjust from there!



BUT IF UR GETTING DIALED IN BY CHIP, TRUST THAT MOFO, CAUSE HE CAN AND WILL DO IT CORRECTLY, FOR YOU!

anastrozole and i do not fit well together at all, this is why IF i have an e2 issue, chip cannt really help dial me in as he already told me he does not really do anything with aromasin, just anastrozole,


so this is why i do aromasin, and what my schedule is like!

BUT REMEMBER THIS IS ABOUT ME, AND MY BODY, AND HOW I GAUGE E2 SPIKES AND LOWS, NOT NECESSARILY HOW EVERYONE DOES IT, WHETHER ITS RIGHT OR WRONG, IT WORKS FOR MEEE!
 
Last edited:
Well, it was what was expected, my E2 shot up to 112 from 28. I explained to the Doc that I was taking 1mg a day for the past few weeks, and I was beginning to see the positive effects of it, he suggested that I continue 1mg/ED until next Friday when I will have more bloodwork performed....
 
How do you know whether the E2 is too low or too high since it seems that the negative sides are the same for too low and too high? I know you can take the blood test and get the answer but who wants to be taking weekly blood tests?

This estrogen thing is really bugging me !
 
How do you know whether the E2 is too low or too high since it seems that the negative sides are the same for too low and too high? I know you can take the blood test and get the answer but who wants to be taking weekly blood tests?

This estrogen thing is really bugging me !


Thats why its imparitive to get it dialed in, there are many symptoms you may experience when your E2 levels are out of whack, such as the acne, drive, libido, bitch tits, belly fat retention, moodiness, headaches etc....
 
Back
Top