Critique my FIRST EVER Cycle! (help appreciated)

[Elgeno]

Hi everyone, I'm new here. I've come up with my first cycle and would love to hear what anyone has to say.

Feel free to critique and suggest things. I'm still unsure about the post cycle therapy (pct) and what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run throughout, but here's what I've got so far..

Weeks 1 - 12
Test-E - 400mg/week (at 2x200mg inections/week)
Arimidex - 0.5mg EOD
Lectrozole on hand in case of gyno

post cycle therapy (pct) -- Unsure, want to get the actual cycle part down first. Nolvadex and Clomid are what I was thinking but have recently been suggested Aromsasin and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (of which I need to research).

I feel it's important to note that I have preexisting pubescent gyno. My nipples are puffy. They developed at puberty; I saw a doctor at the time and he said it's because of hormones. They never went away. I feel this would make me prone to gyno and therefore think I should run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout the cycle. But I will listen to anything suggested to me in regards to this/my cycle/my post cycle therapy (pct).

My Stats
Male
22 years old (23 in June, would wait until then to run cycle)
Weight: 84kg (185lbs) after cutting from 95kg (209lbs).
Height: 184cm (roughly 6'0"-6'1")
Body Fat: 10-12% (haven't been training for the last 2 weeks due to having appendix removed)
Body Type: Natural, ecto, hardgainer. Nice, broad shoulders. Ridiculously long arms though. Hard to make them look bulky.
Training History: 3-4 years of serious training. Been lifting since 16, but only got diet in line at 18-19.
Goals: Gain LBM, minimal body fat. I want to look really good. Big fan of the old-school bodybuilders like Arnold and Zane. Not so much concerned about being monsters like they were, but I want it to be obvious I train seriously.

My Diet
Meal 1 - WPI Shake
0f/1c/27p/109cal

Meal 2 - 4 whole eggs, 2 whites, 100g oats, 2 slices of toast, 1/4 avocado
33.5f/105c/48.7p/1072cal

Meal 3 - 200g Brown rice, 150g tuna in olive oil, 100g brocoli
21f/62c/40p/666cal

Meal 4 - 4 kangaroo sausages, 300g sweet potato, 30 almonds
20f/60c/45p/605cal

Pre Workout - 20g WPI + 40g waxy maize
0f/37c/16p/220cal

Post Workout - 50g WPI + 80g Waxy Maize
2f/75c/40p/480cal

Dinner - 150g chicken breast, 150g baked potato, 30 almonds, 100g brocoli
20f/40c/60p/580cal

Before Bed - 250g cottage cheese
11f/7c/31p/260cal

TOTAL: 108g of fat // 380g of carbs // 307g of protein // 3990 cal

My Split
Sunday: Legs (quad/ham)
Monday: Arms
Tuesday: Shoulders/Calves
Wednesday: REST
Thursday: Back
Friday: Chest
Saturday: REST
Obviously big compound movements. 8-12 rep range. Set range 3-5 per exercise. Few isos to finish off depending on the muscle group.
Every 6 weeks I do a low rep day to shock the muscles. Every 8 weeks I'm changing my routine so I don't adjust.

Before Lifting: i42.tinypic.com/vf9frp.jpg
Christmas Day 2011: i43.tinypic.com/rwtjx0.jpg


Any feedback at all would be greatly appreciated, guy! Thanks for reading!

 

[mdella89]

id look at 500 test, just a personal preference, 400 seems a little low.

pct (4 weeks) nolva 40 40 20 20
clomid 50 50 50 50

on cycle i would personally use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500 iu twice a week to help you recover faster. other than that looks pretty decent

 

[mdella89]

on that note i am your age aswell. personally i would go check your growth plates. if you have stopped growing, go for it, if you havent wait till you have.

 

[P4P4_D]

Awesome writeup.
Imo you could runn test @500
Ai forsure on cycle. U got the correct dosage.
Don't use lrtro unless you really have too.
Pct
Nolva 40mg 2weeks and 20mg next 2 weeks
Clomid @ 50mg ed for 4weeks.
You can also use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throuout pct
Preferrable aromasin.
Hcg for first cycle. Is optional.

 

[Elgeno]

If gyno starts to show up, do you think I should up the arimidex dosage, and if that doesn't help THEN use the lectro? Or straight to something like 2.5mg of lectro until sides subside, then continue cycle with small dose of lectro/higher dose of adex?

Still unsure of post cycle therapy (pct). Some people are saying nolva, others hating nolva. I haven't done nearly as much post cycle therapy (pct) research as needed/compared to actual cycle research.

Have had a few people say 500mg/week of test... Still unsure. On cycles 2 and 3 I'd prefer to just up the dose of test instead of having to add a second compound. That's one of the reasons I've kept it low.

Thanks for the responses guys!

 

[mdella89]

the nolva clomid post cycle therapy (pct) is fine. just run with that. and yes bump the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) up until it goes away, or if that doesnt work get on the letro

 

[mdella89]

there are alot of threads on Letro and gyno, i suggest using the search button and having a good read. you can never do enough reading

 

[Dr. Steal]

Yeah bump the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and only take the Letro if things get out of hand. And with that cycle it prolly wont happen .....But it could sooo..


Cycle looks good for a first one. I would definitely run the clomid/nolva combo for your PCT.

A lil young but what the hell your body

Good luck!!!M

 

[Elgeno]

What are everyone's on keeping arimidex during the cycle. Then in post cycle therapy (pct) using aromasin? I've had a lot of people suggest different things for the post cycle therapy (pct). It's very, very important to me that I return everything to normal when I'm done. And I'll keep lectro on hand in case gyno gets out of control.

Will absolutely be using HCG.

 

[gymrat827]

just hold out as long as you can. i was 23.5 when i first started. with the advice already provided you should be GTG. it seems like you know whats up. keep reading here. learning etc etc etc

 

["200lbs is 200lbs" H.L.R.]

and we dont need your entire life story on your opening post...I didnt even read that mess

 

[Elgeno]

I'm pretty all over the place trying to combine what everyone has suggested. Here's what I've come up with. Please don't be offended if I haven't taken your advice, chances are things will change time and time again before I actually run this.

The only thing to really consider for me individually, is that I have preexisting pubescent gyno. My nipples are puffy. There's no additional fat, the nipple itself is just raised and dome shaped. I have been told this will make me prone to gyno, which is why I've added the AIs and such. Secondly, I want lots of kids one day, so I want to avoid any damage at all to my balls.

Proposed Cycle
Weeks 1 - 12
Test E - 400mg/week (2x200mg injections)
HCG - 250iu E3D
Arimidex - 0.5mg E2D

If gyno occurs, will up Arimidex to 0.5mg ED.
If continues, Arimidex 1mg ED
If continues, Lectrozole will be introduced @ 0.25mg ED

Weeks 13 & 14
Nothing.

PCT
Weeks 15, 16 & 17 (Beginning 2 weeks after last Test-E injection)
Aromasin - 20mg ED
Nolvadex 40mg ED for Week 15 // 20mg ED for Week 16 // 20mg ED Week 17
Clomid - 100mg ED for Week 15 // 50mg ED for Week 16 // 50mg ED for Week 17

Week 18
Nolvadex - 20mg ED
Clomid - 50mg ED

Weeks 19 & 20
Clomid - 25mg ED

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind it's my first time, my current gyno problem and that I want to bounce back to fully functional levels when I'm done.

In regards to the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), thinking of just using it to bridge the time between cycle and PCT instead of throughout the entire cycle. Thoughts on that?