I just thought I would post a review of these peptides. They were prescribed through IMT as a supplement to my TRT. I have been on peptides for about 2 months. The initial reason for going on peptides was to lean out a bit since lower body fat levels are preferable on TRT. I like the results so far and I will stay on this combo for at least 6 months. I just thought I would report what I see so far.
In short, I seem to be leaning out a bit. I see a considerable increase in vascularity particularly in my arms. I am generally pretty lean but carry some body fat in the typical places - primarily in the love handles/lower back and some in the abdominal area. It has always been that way. I think we all know that fat deposits in these areas are very tough to reduce - especially at my age (early 50s), even with a very clean diet.
I am also making some unexpected strength gains since starting the peptides. I have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the last 5 months so things were already going well at the gym. The peptides seem to be helping a lot, on top of having good test levels. For example, I added 40+ lbs to my flat bench in the last 2 months. It seems like every week or so I see a new max on at least one muscle group. Before starting peptides, the gains were coming but at a slower pace.
My joints feel better. I had been dealing with golfers elbow in the last year. I tried a bunch of stuff for months and months including taking some time off, Glucosamine, Cellucor R3 - no improvement. Certain exercises just hurt the elbows so I just avoid them, e.g., I could not curl with a flat bar. Since starting the peptides, the elbows feel much better. I can even curl a bit with the flat bar. I can't think of any other reason the elbows got better, other than the peptides (I no longer take any other joint support supplement - since they do not work for me).
Feel free to read on if you are interested ...
The Peptides
This is apparently a pretty well-known mixture: GHRP2+ GHRP6+Sermorelin. Sermorelin (sometimes called GRF 1-29) is a growth hormone releasing hormone analogue which works well with the GHRPs (growth hormone releasing peptide). There is some synergy to this mixture so the combination is more effective than if the individual components were taken separately. It produces a GH pulse that is some number of minutes long (as opposed to hours or days). I also have some L-Carnitine that I inject (500mg) twice a week. There is apparently some added synergy with L-Carnitine in the mix.
The AutoPen
I went with the optional AutoPen. I really could not do this without the pen. This is basically an insulin pen. The peptides are pre-loaded into small cartridges. No need to reconstitute anything. They kind of look like a mini tube for a caulking gun. The cartridges allow the pen to dispense a metered dose by just dialing in the number of units and pressing a trigger. The pen needles screw onto the pen and self-prime. The pen has some major advantages over injections done with insulin syringes:
1-No refrigeration needed. Once the peptides are loaded into the cartridge by the pharmacy, the pen does not need refrigeration; and
2-The pen needles are very tiny and very sharp. You do not need to piece the septum of a vial to load the pen (which dulls the needle tip). So the pen needles are untouched and perfectly sharp when you do your injection.
Suffice it to say the pen needles are basically painless. I find them more comfortable than an insulin syringe. Keep in mind you will be pinning 3X per day - every day.
In my case, I chose not discuss this kind of stuff with my family members or co-workers. With the pen, I can inject twice per day at work and once before bed. I keep the pen in my work bag (no refrigeration needed) and nobody is the wiser. Like I said, I really could not do this without the pen.
Body Fat
Prior to starting peptides I had my body fat measured at a little over 20% via Bod Pod. My best guess is that I am a little leaner after 2 months on the peptides. I will eventually get another Bod Pod measurement but I want to get a few more months under my belt. Controlling your appetite while on these peptides takes some discipline. I'm still working on fine tuning the diet.
Hunger
This combination does generate some hunger pains. It takes some will power deal with this. In some cases, I am still hungry even after eating. That being said, I have always found it difficult controlling hunger. I am usually still hungry even though I have eaten the proper portion size. It has always been that way so I just deal with it.
So that's all I have to report at this time. Hopefully I will be able to report some improved body fat numbers in a few months.
Update: The Bod Pod numbers are in. I was shocked to say the least. BF came in under 15%. That is about a 7% drop in body fat. My weight stayed the same but I lost 14lbs of fat and gained 16lbs of muscle .... in 4 months. What can I say, the peptides really help with fat loss - big time. I just could never get this lean without them.
Update 1-22-2013: Another Bop Pod test -> current BF = 12% ...
In short, I seem to be leaning out a bit. I see a considerable increase in vascularity particularly in my arms. I am generally pretty lean but carry some body fat in the typical places - primarily in the love handles/lower back and some in the abdominal area. It has always been that way. I think we all know that fat deposits in these areas are very tough to reduce - especially at my age (early 50s), even with a very clean diet.
I am also making some unexpected strength gains since starting the peptides. I have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the last 5 months so things were already going well at the gym. The peptides seem to be helping a lot, on top of having good test levels. For example, I added 40+ lbs to my flat bench in the last 2 months. It seems like every week or so I see a new max on at least one muscle group. Before starting peptides, the gains were coming but at a slower pace.
My joints feel better. I had been dealing with golfers elbow in the last year. I tried a bunch of stuff for months and months including taking some time off, Glucosamine, Cellucor R3 - no improvement. Certain exercises just hurt the elbows so I just avoid them, e.g., I could not curl with a flat bar. Since starting the peptides, the elbows feel much better. I can even curl a bit with the flat bar. I can't think of any other reason the elbows got better, other than the peptides (I no longer take any other joint support supplement - since they do not work for me).
Feel free to read on if you are interested ...
The Peptides
This is apparently a pretty well-known mixture: GHRP2+ GHRP6+Sermorelin. Sermorelin (sometimes called GRF 1-29) is a growth hormone releasing hormone analogue which works well with the GHRPs (growth hormone releasing peptide). There is some synergy to this mixture so the combination is more effective than if the individual components were taken separately. It produces a GH pulse that is some number of minutes long (as opposed to hours or days). I also have some L-Carnitine that I inject (500mg) twice a week. There is apparently some added synergy with L-Carnitine in the mix.
The AutoPen
I went with the optional AutoPen. I really could not do this without the pen. This is basically an insulin pen. The peptides are pre-loaded into small cartridges. No need to reconstitute anything. They kind of look like a mini tube for a caulking gun. The cartridges allow the pen to dispense a metered dose by just dialing in the number of units and pressing a trigger. The pen needles screw onto the pen and self-prime. The pen has some major advantages over injections done with insulin syringes:
1-No refrigeration needed. Once the peptides are loaded into the cartridge by the pharmacy, the pen does not need refrigeration; and
2-The pen needles are very tiny and very sharp. You do not need to piece the septum of a vial to load the pen (which dulls the needle tip). So the pen needles are untouched and perfectly sharp when you do your injection.
Suffice it to say the pen needles are basically painless. I find them more comfortable than an insulin syringe. Keep in mind you will be pinning 3X per day - every day.
In my case, I chose not discuss this kind of stuff with my family members or co-workers. With the pen, I can inject twice per day at work and once before bed. I keep the pen in my work bag (no refrigeration needed) and nobody is the wiser. Like I said, I really could not do this without the pen.
Body Fat
Prior to starting peptides I had my body fat measured at a little over 20% via Bod Pod. My best guess is that I am a little leaner after 2 months on the peptides. I will eventually get another Bod Pod measurement but I want to get a few more months under my belt. Controlling your appetite while on these peptides takes some discipline. I'm still working on fine tuning the diet.
Hunger
This combination does generate some hunger pains. It takes some will power deal with this. In some cases, I am still hungry even after eating. That being said, I have always found it difficult controlling hunger. I am usually still hungry even though I have eaten the proper portion size. It has always been that way so I just deal with it.
So that's all I have to report at this time. Hopefully I will be able to report some improved body fat numbers in a few months.
Update: The Bod Pod numbers are in. I was shocked to say the least. BF came in under 15%. That is about a 7% drop in body fat. My weight stayed the same but I lost 14lbs of fat and gained 16lbs of muscle .... in 4 months. What can I say, the peptides really help with fat loss - big time. I just could never get this lean without them.
Update 1-22-2013: Another Bop Pod test -> current BF = 12% ...
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