cycle help?????????

[RAIDER_ROBB]

SO WHAT SHOULD I DO? HOW BOUT A TEST ENATHATE/EQ CYCLE OF"

WEEKS 1-10 TEST 500MG PER WEEK
WEEKS 1 EQ 800 MG
WEEKS 2-10 400 MG PER WEEK

 

[mvmaxx]

WOULDNT THE TEST BRING ON A LIL WATER RETENTION? I WANNA STAY AWAY FROM THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, THANKS

Liquidex will help with the bloat. It will also help reduce your chances of getting gyno.

 

[JohnnyB]

SO WHAT SHOULD I DO? HOW BOUT A TEST ENATHATE/EQ CYCLE OF"

WEEKS 1-10 TEST 500MG PER WEEK
WEEKS 1 EQ 800 MG
WEEKS 2-10 400 MG PER WEEK

Save the EQ for your next cycle. JMO

JohnnyB

 

[RAIDER_ROBB]

is test enathate a good choice for a first one?

 

[RoadHouse]

Yes it is good. You could go ahead and throw in the EQ, i see no problem, and I would frontload the EQ also. Run arimidex sparingly. .25mg ed to .25 mg eod is my recomendation, i think aromatose inhibitors are over used. Also have nolva on hand, enough for 20mg ed. I would start off at .25mg of arimidex eod, if you seem to be blaoting severly up it to .25mg ed, i wouldnt raise it past that, if you seem to be getting gyno, add nolva, but keep arimidex the same.

 

[buffdoc]

is test enathate a good choice for a first one?

You won't do much better than test enanth for a first. My first was enanth or cyp (essentially the same) and it was great!

 

[RAIDER_ROBB]

how should i frontload the eq?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I'm with JohnnyB on this one, keep it real simple. A test enanthate only cycle would be fine.

 

[RoadHouse]

Any sort of frontloading is doen on day 1, week 1, double the planned weekly dose, so you were on target with 800mg of eq.

 

[mvmaxx]

Yes it is good. You could go ahead and throw in the EQ, i see no problem, and I would frontload the EQ also. Run arimidex sparingly. .25mg ed to .25 mg eod is my recomendation, i think aromatose inhibitors are over used. Also have nolva on hand, enough for 20mg ed. I would start off at .25mg of arimidex eod, if you seem to be blaoting severly up it to .25mg ed, i wouldnt raise it past that, if you seem to be getting gyno, add nolva, but keep arimidex the same.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. If this is his first cycle there's no way anyone can determine how much anastrozole he will need. He may get away fine with .25mg/EOD, then again that may do nothing and he may need 1mg/ED. Point is everyone reacts differently.

Also, he needs to have enough Nolvadex on hand to run 40-60mg/ED until swelling subsides and then go down to 20mg/ED. Hopefully he won't need it at all but I wouldn't start a cycle without at least that much.

 

[RAIDER_ROBB]

so now iam totally confused i thought i had my cycle down, ok so i know im gonna go with test enat. for sure but i still kinda wanna take eq, wont it help more than hinder my growth? also will nolvadex help with water retention?

 

[mvmaxx]

so now iam totally confused i thought i had my cycle down, ok so i know im gonna go with test enat. for sure but i still kinda wanna take eq, wont it help more than hinder my growth? also will nolvadex help with water retention?

-Do either test only or test/EQ. I think you'll be fine either way.

-Don't frontload. It's your first cycle and there's not a single person on this board that can tell you how you will react.

-Buy some Liquidex or Arimidex and run it .25mg/EOD or ED. Bump it up if you don't think it's helping enough with bloat.

-Have enough Nolvadex on hand to run 40-60mg/ED in case you start getting gyno symptoms and then ramp down to 20mg/ED once swelling has subsided.

Good luck.

 

[JohnnyB]

Your cycle is your call, we're just making suggestion and opinions. It's your body, you have to make the final decision. I think first cycle should be simple, test only. To see how your body reacts to Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and build up from there.

Other think you should do a higher dose cycle od a stack because it's your first, so get all the gains you can. When you start high you only can go higher which brings more side effects.

Using anti-e's will stop estrogen build up or stop it from converting. They will cange your lipid profile, for the worst also. So you need to take that in to consideration.

There was a post on anti-e a couple of days ago, find it and read it, it'll help with your decision. Find what you feel comfortable with and do that.

JohnnyB

 

[RAIDER_ROBB]

where is liquidex atainable? and how much do i take for how long?

 

[JohnnyB]

where is liquidex atainable? and how much do i take for how long?

Look for a post by grafix-gnc any post and in his signture you'll see a place click and your there.

JohnnyB

 

[ectomorph]

It will if your dose is to high. Test has been shown to help decrease fat and increase lbm. Like the Bros said it all depends on your diet.

Just a side note, if you start with at high doses your doses can only go up from there. Steroids are a drug your body will need more as you go on, so why not start slow and build up slow. Your almost at a gram of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) in the first part of the cycle you listed and at 1250mg in weeks 7-12, more is not better. I think the cycle is a good third or fourth cycle.

Don't try to reach your goals in 1 cycle, there's no magic pill. You need to reach your goals over time and a few cycles. Your goals will probably change too.

JohnnyB

I agree 100%.