Cycling for permanent gains ????

[darkwing86]

Hey guys , so i was just wondering , i know that when u train , after a period of time your body creates more and more muscle-cell nuclei ( correct me if im wrong ) . When u stop training for a period of time the nuclei and cells begin to shrink ... hence the the muscle gets smaller , but the nuclei remain = muscle memory . When u begin training again the nuclei "re-volumize" per say and the muscle strength and size comes back fast . which leads me to 2 questions

1) would cycling increase the production of nuclei while on ?
2) after cycle , would the new nuclei remain making a permanent gain ?

again correct me if im misunderstanding something or my thought are off lol . thanks guys

 

[Megatron28]

Sounds like HGH may be what you are looking for.

 

[darkwing86]

Im just wondering more like when u build muscle , u multiply these nuclei right , SO when u cycle and produce them / and more quickly ... will they still remain after cycle for a permanent gain ? or is it because u have more gear that i are able to sustain them ? i dont think the gear would have to do with sustaining the nuclei gain no ?

 

[halfwit]

Hey guys , so i was just wondering , i know that when u train , after a period of time your body creates more and more muscle-cell nuclei ( correct me if im wrong ) . When u stop training for a period of time the nuclei and cells begin to shrink ... hence the the muscle gets smaller , but the nuclei remain = muscle memory . When u begin training again the nuclei "re-volumize" per say and the muscle strength and size comes back fast . which leads me to 2 questions

1) would cycling increase the production of nuclei while on ?
2) after cycle , would the new nuclei remain making a permanent gain ?

again correct me if im misunderstanding something or my thought are off lol . thanks guys

Hmmmmmm.

Okay, here's how it works in a nutshell:

• You are born with skeletal muscle that grows as you age. This is where new cells are created, and this process ends around the cessation of puberty as growth hormone concentrations drop drastically, among other processes.
• When you train, these muscle fibers develop micro tears, that signal to the body that the body is under stress and these tears must be repaired. Not only do they need repair, but there is a need to make them either stronger, more dense, or develop a better efficiency. This is the big difference between set/rep ranges.
• The human body requires certain ingredients to help rebuild these muscle tears; one of which is protein, and the other main ingredient being nitrogen. AAS assists with both of these in that it increases the rate of both nitrogen retention, and the synthesis of protein into muscle fibers from diet.
• When you cease using the muscles, the body senses that the time of stress is over; and it will slowly catabolize the muscle, putting those nutrients to use elsewhere. This causes your muscles to shrink, and you do become weaker. This also can happen if the amount of muscle tissue existing requires values of protein/testosterone beyond that in which your body can produce naturally.
• Muscle memory is a misnomer. It should be really called muscle-brain connection as it's really just the fact that your synapses "remember" how to move the muscle effectively, which gives the illusion of added strength - until your body actually rebuilds the fibers.
• Permanent gains do not exist. You have to continually refresh the demands on the muscles and keep the required nutrients/hormones sustained to retain muscle. Otherwise, the body will deem it unnecessary, and remove it. This is easily the number one reason why so many state that natural gains should come before AAS, as a solid base will always be retained (with exercise) due to the fact it's what your body can support naturally.

Note: What you're referring to is indeed what HGH can provide, as HGH causes the generation of new satellite cells in muscle tissue.

I'm skipping some parts, but I just wanted to give a quick breakdown in between paper writing for this god-awful sociology course.

My .02c

 

[Megatron28]

You might find this an interesting read. Above my basic knowledge of biology though...

How Do Muscles Grow?

 

[darkwing86]

Thank you guys ! Can always count on you guys to be on the rescue for all questions and information !

 

[Teutonic]

I do

Sadly most folks when off quit or greatly reduce the amout they train, eat rest....and ask the 2 geniouses stated if you do not use em u lose em and bigger muscles need bigger fuel sources.

" Muscle memory" for layman s terms..after 3 month s off for uh hum various reason I been pounding now for 2 weeks and slowly seeing the body recomp...waiste shrinking, arm s filling, shoulders spreading etc...and I m hungry

 

[bigben66]

Hmmmmmm.

Okay, here's how it works in a nutshell:

• You are born with skeletal muscle that grows as you age. This is where new cells are created, and this process ends around the cessation of puberty as growth hormone concentrations drop drastically, among other processes.
• When you train, these muscle fibers develop micro tears, that signal to the body that the body is under stress and these tears must be repaired. Not only do they need repair, but there is a need to make them either stronger, more dense, or develop a better efficiency. This is the big difference between set/rep ranges.
• The human body requires certain ingredients to help rebuild these muscle tears; one of which is protein, and the other main ingredient being nitrogen. AAS assists with both of these in that it increases the rate of both nitrogen retention, and the synthesis of protein into muscle fibers from diet.
• When you cease using the muscles, the body senses that the time of stress is over; and it will slowly catabolize the muscle, putting those nutrients to use elsewhere. This causes your muscles to shrink, and you do become weaker. This also can happen if the amount of muscle tissue existing requires values of protein/testosterone beyond that in which your body can produce naturally.
• Muscle memory is a misnomer. It should be really called muscle-brain connection as it's really just the fact that your synapses "remember" how to move the muscle effectively, which gives the illusion of added strength - until your body actually rebuilds the fibers.
• Permanent gains do not exist. You have to continually refresh the demands on the muscles and keep the required nutrients/hormones sustained to retain muscle. Otherwise, the body will deem it unnecessary, and remove it. This is easily the number one reason why so many state that natural gains should come before AAS, as a solid base will always be retained (with exercise) due to the fact it's what your body can support naturally.

Note: What you're referring to is indeed what HGH can provide, as HGH causes the generation of new satellite cells in muscle tissue.

I'm skipping some parts, but I just wanted to give a quick breakdown in between paper writing for this god-awful sociology course.

My .02c

BOOM! Halfwit strikes again!

It appears I have repped you too much pal - because this would be earning you greens otherwise!

 

[3J]

Hmmmmmm.

Okay, here's how it works in a nutshell:

• You are born with skeletal muscle that grows as you age. This is where new cells are created, and this process ends around the cessation of puberty as growth hormone concentrations drop drastically, among other processes.
• When you train, these muscle fibers develop micro tears, that signal to the body that the body is under stress and these tears must be repaired. Not only do they need repair, but there is a need to make them either stronger, more dense, or develop a better efficiency. This is the big difference between set/rep ranges.
• The human body requires certain ingredients to help rebuild these muscle tears; one of which is protein, and the other main ingredient being nitrogen. AAS assists with both of these in that it increases the rate of both nitrogen retention, and the synthesis of protein into muscle fibers from diet.
• When you cease using the muscles, the body senses that the time of stress is over; and it will slowly catabolize the muscle, putting those nutrients to use elsewhere. This causes your muscles to shrink, and you do become weaker. This also can happen if the amount of muscle tissue existing requires values of protein/testosterone beyond that in which your body can produce naturally.
• Muscle memory is a misnomer. It should be really called muscle-brain connection as it's really just the fact that your synapses "remember" how to move the muscle effectively, which gives the illusion of added strength - until your body actually rebuilds the fibers.
• Permanent gains do not exist. You have to continually refresh the demands on the muscles and keep the required nutrients/hormones sustained to retain muscle. Otherwise, the body will deem it unnecessary, and remove it. This is easily the number one reason why so many state that natural gains should come before AAS, as a solid base will always be retained (with exercise) due to the fact it's what your body can support naturally.

Note: What you're referring to is indeed what HGH can provide, as HGH causes the generation of new satellite cells in muscle tissue.

I'm skipping some parts, but I just wanted to give a quick breakdown in between paper writing for this god-awful sociology course.

My .02c

let me simplify what half said..

your diet helps you grow and sustain growth.. your training causes the damage to muscle necessary to grow/sustain growth..

do a shitty job with either and you lose your gains..

hope that helps