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[dfresh88]

thinking of a 10 week cycle of test e in january 12, only experience is a 6 week cycle of hdrol . just need to know if i got everything straight and what all i need. was planning on 500mg, so two 250mg shots a week, and how many days apart should i split doses? . i have letro on hand, do i need hcg? if so how is that dosed/how often do i pin it?

thinking its time to go to the real deal fellas, and appreciate all the help... thanks!

 

[balboa270]

Mon and Thursday on pinsi don't think you need hcg on this cycle I would get adex for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) keep the letro incase sides adex can't handle. Grab you some nolva and clomid for pct

 

[essays]

Balboa pretty much laid it out. For the dosing, it'll depend on what kind of test you buy. It's most common in enanthate/cypionate for it to be 1cc (or 1mL) = 250mg of test, so you'll take 1cc twice a week.

Letro for your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is pretty strong and I'd advise against it if you don't have any experience with letro. Adex and aromasin are milder choices and have less sides. I don't think you will need hcg either, just go with the standard clomid, nolva, or both.

 

[dfresh88]

so i dont need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), just good to have around in case? and hcg isnt needed, ive read its more for longer cycles/multiple compounds?

 

[dfresh88]

also would nolva alone at say 20mg for 4-5 weeks be good for pct?

 

[essays]

so i dont need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), just good to have around in case? and hcg isnt needed, ive read its more for longer cycles/multiple compounds?

I think you might have misunderstood. You need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your cycle, but running letro at full (or even half dose) is going to be too much. I'm advising you go with arimadex at .5 EOD to start, or aromasin at 12.5mg EOD. Adjust accordingly, everyone reacts differently.

 

[essays]

also would nolva alone at say 20mg for 4-5 weeks be good for pct?

Yes, that would be fine. A lot of the guys who have been at this for years like to combo clomid and nolva together, but nolva will do the trick also. I would run it at 40 for a couple of days, then 20mg for the rest.

 

[dfresh88]

thanks man. so what about a very small dose of letro, each tab is 2.5mg. maybe a quarter of a tab?

 

[essays]

thanks man. so what about a very small dose of letro, each tab is 2.5mg. maybe a quarter of a tab?

If it's legit letro, it's probably still too much. I only like taking letro in liquid form, because the liquid is always 2.5mg per mL, and I'll take .1 - .2 mL ed or eod depending on how much gear I'm running and how I feel.

Honestly, keep the letro for if you run into a lump or something and acquire some aromasin or arimadex.

 

[dfresh88]

If it's legit letro, it's probably still too much. I only like taking letro in liquid form, because the liquid is always 2.5mg per mL, and I'll take .1 - .2 mL ed or eod depending on how much gear I'm running and how I feel.

Honestly, keep the letro for if you run into a lump or something and acquire some aromasin or arimadex.

ok, and you said hcg isnt needed right?

 

[essays]

ok, and you said hcg isnt needed right?

I don't use it, haven't needed it. Some guys wont go without it. You'll have to see for yourself.

 

[dfresh88]

I don't use it, haven't needed it. Some guys wont go without it. You'll have to see for yourself.

thanks brotha

 

[dfresh88]

so lately ive been thinking i might not wanna do dnp when spring rolls around, whats everyones take? hopefully ill have some nice body comp changes from the test and wont need any. thought of hgh too, but pricey. and im not ready for tren lol

 

[pain.makes.me.stronger]

If you're diets clean even losing 2 lbs a week you could drop a ton by then bud

 

[branman2012]

Goodluck man! Stats?

 

[jadakiss]

They only advise I can give u is to make sure u have everything u need before u start. I'm starting to notice alot of new guys like me and doing cycles with out askin the vets ? And havin all of the supply.

 

[dfresh88]

Goodluck man! Stats?

been lifting about 6 years... 23 yrs old, 6'2'' 205 prob 16%bf. thanks bro!

 

[dfresh88]

They only advise I can give u is to make sure u have everything u need before u start. I'm starting to notice alot of new guys like me and doing cycles with out askin the vets ? And havin all of the supply.

yea no doubt bro im doing my homework. gonna do 10-12 weeks test e 500mg. mon thurs pin i think. not quite sure if im gonna run ai/hcg yet

 

[OmegaReign]

For the blast phase. IMO Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is def worth it. Nuts come back real quick.

 

[China_Wall]

not sure if ur gonna run an ai??! come bro, do it right the first time around. Get some arimidex, run it at 0.5mg eod for the entire cycle right through til post cycle therapy (pct) is finished... Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is good to run for two weeks leading up to start of post cycle therapy (pct)(so start immediately after last shot of test e)at 500-1000iu per week split into two injections

run the test e minimum 12 weeks for a first cycle, even 15 is ok